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[pitsilos]

Is demanding safeguards to protect my community asking to much?

is it going back to you own property, and in the same country that was taken away from, asking too much?

[Viewpoint]

Is demanding safeguards to protect my community asking to much?

is it going back to you own property, and in the same country that was taken away from, asking too much?

No asking for your property is not to much and your right, if you would like to make a move now you may apply to the property commission in the north if you wish to wait until we resolve all the other problems that is your personal choice.

Can you now answer my question?

[LENA]

VP…

Dont you live in the UK? anyway I have GC friends I associate with but of course we are very diplomatic and try not to reveal our true feelings and ideas for fear of upsetting each other plus the ladies always tell us to shut up if we talk politics. I have nothing against the people as individuals but I do have a problem with the leadership which I do not trust one inch.

So thanks but no thanks.

No I don’t live in UK…I study for a short period here…Good for your ladies…but you know I am not the government…and I don’t think Miltiades either. And you know if we start talking to each other, associate etc…individual then how we are going to live together later as one and united country? So I invite you for one more time. Will you come to have lunch, dinner, coffee, tea, juice, ayrani/buttermilk/yayik ayrani??

I cannot guarantee your safety we have many fanatics as well if we rock the boat to much and try living mixed up with sides this will be an invite to fanatics to kill innocent people, can you guarantee my safety?

Yes you are right I shouldn’t feel safe! For those reasons…

http://www.hri.org/Cyprus/Cyprus_Proble ... der_1.html

http://kypros.org/Cyprus_Problem/Kakoullis.html

http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=3329

http://www.rsf.org/print.php3?id_article=10137

http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/tcpr/200 ... pr.html#04

But even after all this I trust you and I feel safe. But why you can’t do the same?

That all I know and love, I have travelled and lived abroad but the TRNC is home and where I belong not the "RoC" which to me is a GC state.

I travelled too and now I am living abroad…and its like hell sometimes… when I remember my country…we have a phrase which say “like your home is nowhere”…I belong too to Cyprus…why I have to divide Cyprus in pieces? I am young and stupid like most of the people say…but why I can do that and you are not able?

Thats why I say we should create a level playing field so that we are equals and no one has the upper hand, but you leaders want to keep us isolated so that we will want a solution, well believe me when I say its having the opposite effect.

I am not saying that our politicians are correct…but they opened the borders for you without any problems…you are able to come in the south part and get a job, they translated all the government papers in Turkish to allow you have a Cypriot passport, driving licence, ID and I don’t know what else, to be able to have equal rights as the rest of the Cypriots. You are not that isolated as you want to present your self. I know that there are lots of things that they still have to do.
But I told you, you don’t even want to try, you don’t even want to step a little bit back, and you don’t want to put any effort. What exactly is that you want???

[Kikapu]

I am young and stupid like most of the people say…??

"To Be Old and Wise, You First Have To Be Young and Stupid"

[LENA]

I am young and stupid like most of the people say…??

"To Be Old and Wise, You First Have To Be Young and Stupid"

Yes Kikapu I know that...I am not in a hurry to be old...I have lots of things to learn...but to be old doesn't mean always that you have to be wise too! Definitely you have lots of experience...but that doesn't make you wise!!!!

[Kikapu]

I am young and stupid like most of the people say…??

"To Be Old and Wise, You First Have To Be Young and Stupid"

Yes Kikapu I know that...I am not in a hurry to be old...I have lots of things to learn...but to be old doesn't mean always that you have to be wise too! Definitely you have lots of experience...but that doesn't make you wise!!!!

You're absolutely right. Being wise and intelligence are also not the same thing, even though, no one has mention intelligence here. I think, to become wise, it would help to travel as much as possible, and meet as many people as possible. Books may give you knowledge, but your own experiences will give you the inside story.

[LENA]

You're absolutely right. Being wise and intelligence are also not the same thing, even though, no one has mention intelligence here. I think, to become wise, it would help to travel as much as possible, and meet as many people as possible. Books may give you knowledge, but your own experiences will give you the inside story.

You are right Kikapu, as a teacher I say that children but also every human being can learn better through their own experience, through practice and by physical and mental involvement.

[shahmaran]

Lana all i can say to you is that you need to SERIOUSLY come to the north and stop with your assumptions that are not only inaccurate but also backed up wiht a few very old and compleately unrelated links that all have different individual reasons, which cannot be used to proove any overall assumptions about the TCs nor the government....

[LENA]

Lana all i can say to you is that you need to SERIOUSLY come to the north and stop with your assumptions that are not only inaccurate but also backed up wiht a few very old and compleately unrelated links that all have different individual reasons, which cannot be used to proove any overall assumptions about the TCs nor the government....

OK LETS TRY ONE MORE TIME...MY NAME IS LENA....L*E*N*A!!!!!!!
And dont tell me that I made mistake, it was wrong my quotation or I didnt get it right. As for your comment...what are you saying??? That all this never happened??? And look the year in few of them...are before 2 or 3 years...but I can find articles about GC that they was prisoned by Turkish after they cross the borders. And I didnt say anything about TCs. I only said about the Turks and the Turkish army. And I only put them there to show that we are not so safe as VP think and you are in danger by us!!!!

[Pyrpolizer]

LET’S HAVE A BRAKE-LET’S HAVE A KIT KAT

Have you all noticed the recent massive deleting of posts in here?
What do you think about it, do you think it is done properly and without bias, does it serve any purpose, is this really the job of a moderator?

On page 32 of this topic Viewpoint was calling Kikapu some names.

I quoted a small part saying:

Wow-wow, sick bastard, fuck off, Kikapoulos, your colours are getting brighter and brighter VP.

Birkibrisli, has put down your agenda points in an orderly manner, would you care prove him wrong? There is not even one person in here who hasn't realised what your doing behind your "government" satelite connection

Then in view of the above and within that context I wrote this:

It reminds me of 1974 when your "peace forces" from Turkey were hunging a Christian cross on the necks of poor TCs just to ridicule them for their spoken Turkish. Do you knoe how many TC women and girls your "peace forces" from Turkey have raped in 1974 VP?

I go back to see how the discussion developed and I see most the posts of Viewpoint deleted, my first post also deleted (can someone tell me what I said wrong to have that specific post deleted???) and a whole discussion butchreded so much that it has no coherence, whatsoever.
Funny thing Zan quoted my post and it still appears there for everybody to see!!!!

In my opinion the moderator in here is not doing her job right. First of all she is never present. Second she does no promote or direct the discussions using clever tricks like intriguing questions, and thirdly I have never seen any knowledge on her behalf regarding the subject matter of this sub forum.

Obviously it is very difficult to moderate such a forum, and I partly can understand her possition, on the other hand though, I just don’t believe deleting of posts is right. It is one of the many - many ways, and perhaps the last measure a moderator should take.

In view of this I will personally evaluate whether spending my time thinking, trying to persuade, getting emotionally upset, trying to contribute here, worths it anymore or not.

In case I never appear again, for one reason or another, then goodbye to all of you. No hard feelings.