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Postby LENA » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:05 pm

shahmaran wrote:thats not what i said, that is what i said within the context of your vision of the conflict!

Tell me something then Lena, if you dislike Turks so much and dont want them there, how much time do you think a "Turk" has to spend in your island before he/she becomes a "Turkish Cypriot" and has won your liking and approval of the right to be there? When does a Turk become a TC?


I was trying for so long to hear those words from you...I told you I knew that, you believe that all this Turks who came after 1974 are Cypriots too, you think that all this years they made them Turkish CYPRIOTS. Is that what you are telling me???
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Postby G.Man » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:11 pm

LOL

Nah they have to be at least born in cyprus, or of TC descent born elsewhere...

Otherwise I would be able to call myself an english cypriot after 20 years here

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Postby reportfromcyprus » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:19 pm

pitsilos wrote:either remove the oxygen mask or put down the reefer, one or the either, but definetely not both while trying to talk


Especially not with your head up your a^&
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:23 pm

@ Shah


How about buying yours at double the price?

First of all Turkey had no right to "intervene" and take our lands and properties. Read the treaty of guarantee. Secondly what happened back the is that you were used by Turkey to create the excuses to invade. This "you did not want us" is just a fallacy they taught you.

The reason why you shouldn't grab our properties is pretty simple. Because if we follow the same logic then all we have to do is wait until we take them back using the same excuses when the first opportunity arises, and moreover take yours too. Nothing is fixed in this world, and don't tell me you are the brave Turks who are afraid of nothing...

In a nutshell it is a matter of security.Feel free to continue wanting a solution that will legalise the results of the invasion. You will never get it.
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:16 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:@ Shah


How about buying yours at double the price?

First of all Turkey had no right to "intervene" and take our lands and properties. Read the treaty of guarantee. Secondly what happened back the is that you were used by Turkey to create the excuses to invade. This "you did not want us" is just a fallacy they taught you.

The reason why you shouldn't grab our properties is pretty simple. Because if we follow the same logic then all we have to do is wait until we take them back using the same excuses when the first opportunity arises, and moreover take yours too. Nothing is fixed in this world, and don't tell me you are the brave Turks who are afraid of nothing...

In a nutshell it is a matter of security.Feel free to continue wanting a solution that will legalise the results of the invasion. You will never get it.


Well Pyr i tell you 2 things, first of all Turkey didnt have the right to intervene like they did yes, but then nothing really was going on in Cyprus that was that leagal anyways, so dont go rushing to the law books when it suits you only, if what you say is true and Turkey has spiced up her reasons to move in for her own interests, you still would have given her and everyone else the opportunity to do so, nothing happened out of the blue.

Secondly if you are actually (very ridiculously) suggesting that you might have a chance to get them back by force then i can only laugh at you, nothing more, its not only propesterous but also highly improbable, i mean not trying to brag along this foolish suggestion or anything, but think about when was the last time you won a war against the Turks, even your mainland along with the help of the british, french, russian and interior uprisings by the armenians and the kurds and some pontus gangs, against a an empire which had collapsed still resulted with a very humiliating defeat...

Finally your attitude perfectly portrays the kind of attitude we are dealing with and fighting against, like i said before untill we see each other with equal rights to the island we will never be able to negotiate...
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Postby LENA » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:46 pm

Shahmaran...I am waiting for an answer here!!!!!!!
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:53 pm

First of all I said "by the same logic" and your right your logic was ridiculous.

And nobody doubts Turkey wins all the wars, because they are so brave.
For example they did win the war against the Armenians by wiping off 1.5 million civilians out of the 2.5 million Armenians didn't they?

By the same logic Grivas could very easily have won the war by wiping off 120,000 TCs overnight in the 60s couldn't he?
However Makarios didn't let him. Otherwise he would be as brave as the Turks are.
It seems all other nations are chiky Shah. The only brave nation are the Turks.
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:14 pm

Yes Pyr, maybe Turkeys logic was a little over the top but it did the job, i dont think any TC would have complained. Its like calling the police on your attackers and then blaming the cops for being too rough...as if!
GC put themselves into that position, they cant blame others for over reacting, im sure you know the saying "there is no smoke if there is no fire", start taking a little more responsability for the doings of your people....

....and for your information, Turkey did loose WW1, thats how the empire collapsed and all these "brave" nations came to divide the cake, Greeks, Kurds and Armenians were there sucking up on the big boys in the hope that they would get a piece thrown at them too... :lol:

....so the point ihere my friend is that, when countries see the opportunity they will take it, as did the Greeks and their allies back in the day, and so has Turkey in 74, and the British in WW1, the trick is not to give them the opportunity, this is exactly how America goes around invading countries in the name of peace, didnt you notice? its not a new strategy you know :lol:



and LENA, you have yet again read my post in the wrong way, i dont know where im going wrong.

No i dont think the Turks that moved after 74 are not that Cypriot. Altho they are my Turkish cousins and i love them too, i am not too fond of having my village invaded with unintellectual, extremely religious, old fashioned immigrants from ANY nation, im just a bit of an asshole whan it comes to that. But that was not my point, you keep making all these anti-Turk remakrs to me and expect me to aggree with you and i was just trying to point out the fact that WE too came to this island from there but now we are TCs, i was asking you to tell me how long you think it would take for someone to immigrate to this island and become Cypriot enough for your liking, so it was a sarcastic question im sorry....
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Postby LENA » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:45 am

shahmaran wrote:and LENA, you have yet again read my post in the wrong way, i dont know where im going wrong.

No i dont think the Turks that moved after 74 are not that Cypriot. Altho they are my Turkish cousins and i love them too, i am not too fond of having my village invaded with unintellectual, extremely religious, old fashioned immigrants from ANY nation, im just a bit of an asshole whan it comes to that. But that was not my point, you keep making all these anti-Turk remakrs to me and expect me to aggree with you and i was just trying to point out the fact that WE too came to this island from there but now we are TCs, i was asking you to tell me how long you think it would take for someone to immigrate to this island and become Cypriot enough for your liking, so it was a sarcastic question im sorry....


Lets see what you said...with a BIT of hunour!!!

shahmaran wrote: No i dont think the Turks that moved after 74 are not that Cypriot.


no+no=yes....so they are Cypriots...or they are not ??????

Altho they are my Turkish cousins and i love them too


so we agree...you love them

im just a bit of an asshole


you said that...I didnt

Anyway...I agree with you…

was not my point


so your point is…????

i was just trying to point out the fact that WE too came to this island from there but now we are TCs


So you admit that you are a Turk and you have to go back to your country where you belong…

i was asking you to tell me how long you think it would take for someone to immigrate


As soon as better for all of us!!!!

I hope you are not mad at me…

it was a sarcastic … im sorry....
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:47 am

Lena no im not mad at you and i hope you are not/will not be mad at me, but i do think you are full of shit this time, quoting everything i have said with a bit of a HUMOROUS commentary in between, and quoting some other parts incompleately in order to bring them out of context so they can fit into your silly little answers, doesnt say anything except that you did not understand anything i have said as usual or you have nothing reasonable to say in return so you pull a Sotos or Pyr manouver on me :lol:

It is really dissapointing, because only now i am realising what kind of RACIST thoughts you actually hold towards Turks.

This is exactly what you did to Pyr, and i have to admit altho it was funny it was the same kind of meaningless rubbish that you presented as a respone which meant absolutely nothing, but it was a good effort and luckily you can hide behind the little sweet girl that you portray abour yourself and it will all just pass by as simply, funny... so good luck with that if it ever becomes a habit ;)
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