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[DT.]

I thnk turkey did. They had everything to gain from this....denktash on the other hand stopped communicating with his surroundings in the 80's. WHo knows what that psycho wants.

[zan]

Thats not the impression I got from what I read at the time but I could be wrong

[humanist]

Shah, no I was not implying that, ......... I was comenting on the genocide issue and was merely suggesting that the holocaust was also part of the war. The argument would be that the Armenian genocide is too part of the war, but does that then make it okay? Just questioning human thought process and our innability to change it, to understand and appreciate our own human kind>

[shahmaran]

Shah, no I was not implying that, ......... I was comenting on the genocide issue and was merely suggesting that the holocaust was also part of the war. The argument would be that the Armenian genocide is too part of the war, but does that then make it okay? Just questioning human thought process and our innability to change it, to understand and appreciate our own human kind>

I understand, well i dont think any killing is OK but it was a time of war, and Turkey was trying to win her independence back from a lot of foreign forces and influences, and anyone who stood in the way was enemy.

However the Jews were being killed for a wholy different ideology, they were being killed BECAUSE they were Jews (THATS genocide and THATS why TCs claim it took place) along with others who didnt fit into Hitlers vision of Germany. I believe Armenians could have been Eskimos for all we care, wouldnt have made any difference, it was their actions that was the issue.

To get back to the thought proccess, all i can say is that Nationalism is an extremely powerfull tool within these situations, its probably what turned the Armenians against the Turks, the Arabs against the Ottomans and Turks against everyone else, there is just no stopping it, and its probably the same for Cyprus, how else would neighbour go against a neighbour, its the oldest trick in the book and sadly people fall for it every time.

Clearly didnt take a whole lot to trigger off the Cypriots into fighting against each other, even tho they had been living together for so many years, seems like all it takes is a few politicians and some foreign provocation, add a bit of religion too and all that brotherhood that has supposedly developed over 100s of years quickly becomes worthless...sad really.

I suppose the only way out of this would be to overcome nationalism and put your fellow human being before anything else regardless of his background, then no one can talk anyone into anything, but to do that i presume national borders will have to vanish first both phisically and mentally, which i doubt it would be anytime in this century or probably the next, and i still wouldnt put my money on the one after either

[humanist]

here! here! my friend ...... may in Alah's/God's name we get enlightened soon enough to save our country.

[ken910]

hear hear ban religion ban preachers burn politicians the rest will fall in place

[humanist]

coudn't agree with you more ken