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Turkey is at risk of losing the Turkish Cypriots

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby zan » Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:07 am

humanist wrote:Thanks Zan I will try to look at it from this perspective, though I doubt that I can live in the North, buy a property, build a home etc. can I as a greek Speaking Cypriot? On a moral and ethical stand I could not support a regime that is occupying land through war and it is not because it is Cyprus, I would not do so if it was any other place on earth.



I don't mean to pick holes in your wording but again it is on land through conflict and not war. I suppose it could be seen as the same thing but it is the fault of both sides and therefore a consequence of this conflict. I for one would be proud to have you living in the North because you truly show humanity in understanding the situation. It is a bitter pill to swallow but it is no different than saying goodbye to a loved one when they have to leave. We have not gone far and if common sense prevails in the future and that final bastion of our past comes down and we can form a government that can cater for both sides then rejoice because this is the beginning of the end.


I sound like I am on some mission from god but this is what I believe.
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Postby humanist » Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:37 am

Hey, I support you fully in saying what you believe ...... if I don't like it that is my problem ...... so long as you accept that what I believe is my belief ...... However I would disagree with you about the conflict thing. I very much remember a Turkish bomber flying over my house and to this day I feel the fear that I felt back there as 6 year old. That was war my friend, and as I said to you before my 18 year old uncle was killed by the invading Turkish army.

As far as living in the North ....... is that a fact or simply your expression of belief?
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Postby zan » Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:01 pm

humanist wrote:Hey, I support you fully in saying what you believe ...... if I don't like it that is my problem ...... so long as you accept that what I believe is my belief ...... However I would disagree with you about the conflict thing. I very much remember a Turkish bomber flying over my house and to this day I feel the fear that I felt back there as 6 year old. That was war my friend, and as I said to you before my 18 year old uncle was killed by the invading Turkish army.

As far as living in the North ....... is that a fact or simply your expression of belief?



I have no problem with what you believe Humanist and no problem with agreeing to disagree either.

As for living in the TRNC, I can see no real problems because I have not heard of one case where GCs have been attacked. If you mean whether it is permissible then I cannot see any problem with that either, There are not just Turks on the other side you know. For a more comprehensive answer I would have to refer you to VP and Shahraman because they actually live this on a daily basis.
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Postby humanist » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:50 pm

Thanx Zan, I do not have any problems with physical safety at all. I do not perceive my brothers and sisters in the north as vilains who would physically attack me. Not at all. I was more wondering whether it would be permissible and whether I would have equal rights to other Cypriot citizens.

Would I be expected to join the Turkish Army?
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Postby ken910 » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:11 am

why not try another option get a new president you will neve get an agrea on anything whilst u have a member of eoka runing the show to him a good turk is a dead turk god forbid anyone like him been a turks president
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:15 am

ken910 wrote:why not try another option get a new president you will neve get an agrea on anything whilst u have a member of eoka runing the show to him a good turk is a dead turk god forbid anyone like him been a turks president



We would never let that happen Tasoss cannot be President of a United Cyprus, would be an insult to TCs just as Denktaş becoming vice president. So as long as he is in office there will be no solution.
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Postby ken910 » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:31 am

at this time there is no greek politician that is of any matter or importance that wants a solution only one that is under their conditons some one needs to tell them wake up its a dream get over it u screwed up learn to live with it but europe is using you again for its own agenda dont be a tool u realy dont matter that much in the big picture
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Postby ken910 » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:37 am

and view point i know it would be a issult but as we can all see greeks dont have shame only demands if they did they would have done things very differently not like spoilt little babies
that just had thier dummy taken from them there even beginning to belive their own lies
that is why we cannot move on greek propganda is lethal but thank god we r all learning from them
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Postby DT. » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:45 am

ken910 wrote:and view point i know it would be a issult but as we can all see greeks dont have shame only demands if they did they would have done things very differently not like spoilt little babies
that just had thier dummy taken from them there even beginning to belive their own lies
that is why we cannot move on greek propganda is lethal but thank god we r all learning from them



I don't know about GC's not having any shame and only having demands like spoilt babies because their dummies were taken from them???? You don't get writing like this anymore. :lol: This is old school I'm a Turk you're a Greek exchange...

But i do agree on Tassos, I don;t think he should be president of the Gc's let alone all the cypriots.
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Postby ken910 » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:09 am

IF MAJORITY FELT LIKE YOU DT IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT CYPRUS BUT SHAME THEY DONT HA GET RID OF TASSOS THEN MAYBE HALF A CHANCE 4 US
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