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Turkey is at risk of losing the Turkish Cypriots

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby pitsilos » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:28 am

its not the guarantees they want, its the pay cheque at the end of the month. cut that out and we will see what happens.

because they forfeit the protection once they cross over on their daily walk about.
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Postby humanist » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:32 am

the sad thing is that the Cyprus problem will remain as is for another 32 years, till a generation on both sides dies off and then no one would give a hoot. north Cyprus isolated another 32 years and south Cyprus and greek Speaking Refugees letting go of their properties sad, unfortunate but very true.

As I have not observed on this forum a way out of this but sidelining and blaming none of which assist in any way shape or fom a united Cyprus.
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Postby zan » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:43 am

pitsilos wrote:its not the guarantees they want, its the pay cheque at the end of the month. cut that out and we will see what happens.

because they forfeit the protection once they cross over on their daily walk about.




How many times do you guys have to be told it is not the ordinary get on with his life GC that we see as the problem. As you guys keep telling us, it was only a hand full of people in EOKA that caused all this shit before so what’s to stop it happening again. We do not fear you as a whole in that sense but the powers that be and what the situation can bring about. Chuck in all the social and economic problems and there you have it in a nutshell.
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Postby LENA » Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:59 am

humanist wrote:the sad thing is that the Cyprus problem will remain as is for another 32 years, till a generation on both sides dies off and then no one would give a hoot. north Cyprus isolated another 32 years and south Cyprus and greek Speaking Refugees letting go of their properties sad, unfortunate but very true.

As I have not observed on this forum a way out of this but sidelining and blaming none of which assist in any way shape or fom a united Cyprus.


You dont have to wait that much to see that humanist. Lots of young people do not care about the Cyprus problem. They prefer to stay as it is. They leave with the fear that they are going to lose that nice soft couch in their living rooms for something that they never saw before. They didnt experience all the facts so they do not want to loose the quite life for "nothing"!!! Even few people that they lived during the war they do not want to go back because now they have better lives.
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Postby pitsilos » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:27 pm

zan wrote:
pitsilos wrote:its not the guarantees they want, its the pay cheque at the end of the month. cut that out and we will see what happens.

because they forfeit the protection once they cross over on their daily walk about.




How many times do you guys have to be told it is not the ordinary get on with his life GC that we see as the problem. As you guys keep telling us, it was only a hand full of people in EOKA that caused all this shit before so what’s to stop it happening again. We do not fear you as a whole in that sense but the powers that be and what the situation can bring about. Chuck in all the social and economic problems and there you have it in a nutshell.


because zan the majority went against the minority in 74. the majority rejected the moron and co...that alone should tell you something.

and thats a pretty well cheap excuse. as the article says, the GC are too busy with prospering than thinking about wars. just have a look around.
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:31 pm

humanist wrote:the sad thing is that the Cyprus problem will remain as is for another 32 years, till a generation on both sides dies off and then no one would give a hoot. north Cyprus isolated another 32 years and south Cyprus and greek Speaking Refugees letting go of their properties sad, unfortunate but very true.

As I have not observed on this forum a way out of this but sidelining and blaming none of which assist in any way shape or fom a united Cyprus.



i totally aggree with you there, however i dont find it sad, its the beauty of nature, everything heals eventually, when its all boiled down, im pretty sure no one on either sides wants what is going on right now, people just want to get on with their lives as comfortably a possible, and that will always prevail...hopefully my kids will see it :)
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Postby zan » Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:03 pm

pitsilos wrote:
zan wrote:
pitsilos wrote:its not the guarantees they want, its the pay cheque at the end of the month. cut that out and we will see what happens.

because they forfeit the protection once they cross over on their daily walk about.




How many times do you guys have to be told it is not the ordinary get on with his life GC that we see as the problem. As you guys keep telling us, it was only a hand full of people in EOKA that caused all this shit before so what’s to stop it happening again. We do not fear you as a whole in that sense but the powers that be and what the situation can bring about. Chuck in all the social and economic problems and there you have it in a nutshell.


because zan the majority went against the minority in 74. the majority rejected the moron and co...that alone should tell you something.

and thats a pretty well cheap excuse. as the article says, the GC are too busy with prospering than thinking about wars. just have a look around.



You have nearly repeated what I said??????


The normal every day GCs are getting on with their lives, they are not the danger. The RoC is the danger. The idiots that think that this is all the Turks fault is the danger. The disruption of the whole country is the danger. The dismissal and the indifference to TC needs is the danger. The people that want a gazillion pounds and property back is the danger.....................need I go on? To see the word "UNIFICATION" and think that is the answer is the danger. You can say that partition is a danger as well but at least we are not in the same ring.
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Postby humanist » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:33 am

Well Shah, for me it is sad, as a 6 years old I remember a couple of Turkis speaking families that lived in our neighbourhoo and they were tottally nice to me and my family. The sad this also is that all Cypriots are paying the price of external forces and I think that is sad. Turkish Speaking Cypriots have been isolated for 33 years and Greek Speaking Cypriots have been denied access to their propertis and a larger number to their country. And for what? At the end of the day we are all one, one human race on the brink of distraction that for me is very sad.
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Postby zan » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:41 am

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Why not rejoice. Why do you choose to look at it as a sad thing. It is inevitable because of history and you can choose to see it as a positive in the sense that we can leave the past behind and have chosen a path that will solve our problems. As it stands at the moment, it is only a problem if people see it as a problem. You can visit or live where ever you want just because it is a country that is run by TCs does not make it bad. The refugee position is sad but again part of the history and some form of compensation must be paid by all parties concerned but it is up to us to say we have made the best of a bad situation and rejoice. You do have the choice.
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Postby humanist » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:52 am

Thanks Zan I will try to look at it from this perspective, though I doubt that I can live in the North, buy a property, build a home etc. can I as a greek Speaking Cypriot? On a moral and ethical stand I could not support a regime that is occupying land through war and it is not because it is Cyprus, I would not do so if it was any other place on earth.
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