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The TMT mentality of the 60s for taksim.

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby zan » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:40 pm

I think I will now go and have a row with VP. VP, he has driven us apart. Divide and conquer.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:40 pm

Mrfromng

by just saying that Piratis' posts are crap doesn't make them so.

If you think his post is not sensible, then quote the parts you think they are not, and convince us otherwise.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:43 pm

To whom it may concern

"Zan is talking to himself" will do it. :razz:

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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:55 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Just look at the most extreme partitionists of the forum:

a)Zan quoting us an article by some GC loser, who in essense asks the GCs to capitulate. Rolandis did not dare mention to what degree we should capitulate, but I am sure the vivid imagination of Zan has already worked it out. Just by hearing a GC loser telling him partition will be a fact in 2013, and the RoC will lose recognition was enough for Zan to go drown himself inside a rosewater pool.

b)The much wittier partitionist Viewpoint: The GCs don’t want to compromise he says. (compromise to their partition dreams that is) . We want to force our demands on them he says (Our demand being to get back our stolen lands and homes. Wow!) We want to destroy them economically he says… He also said something about war and guns, well let the poor man see as many things in his imagination as he likes, they are tax free.

Yes VP you are indeed much cleverer than Zan. We should want to destroy you economically. Do you have a problem?

UNTIL YOU ROT.


Not at all, you have been trying to do it for 44 years nothing new there, we have and will continue to progress and do you know who will help us? the body you thought would bring the solution you want, no other than the EU. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot yet again. :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:58 pm

zan wrote:I think I will now go and have a row with VP. VP, he has driven us apart. Divide and conquer.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Noway my friend..... :wink:
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Postby Simon » Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:14 pm

Pyrpolizer, I have indeed been saying for a long time now that the Turks/Turkish Cypriots (now able to be used interchangably considering there are so many Turks in the northern part of Cyprus nowadays) views/arguments have not changed since peace negotiations began in the 50s. Their taksim views have not changed one iota. It is clear from the majority of members on this forum that their motto is: PARTITION OR A DE JURE UNIFICATION PLAN CONCEALING DE FACTO PARTITION. The Annan Plan gives testimony to this if nothing else.

The Greek Cypriots on the other hand have given up their original position of demanding enosis, but in doing so, over the years, are seemingly being dragged closer and closer towards succumbing to the Turkish nationalistic position. Those Greek Cypriots keen on being seen as moderates are in serious danger of giving too much ground in what should be a quest for all of us who are lovers of justice: PROPORTIONAL POWER-SHARING.
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:17 pm

yeah shame you didnt have any of that "PROPORTIONAL POWER-SHARING" long time ago!

GREEKS started this, THEY caused the WAR, and THEY LOST IT!

Now have some dignity and get over it...
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:59 pm

Simon wrote:Pyrpolizer, I have indeed been saying for a long time now that the Turks/Turkish Cypriots (now able to be used interchangably considering there are so many Turks in the northern part of Cyprus nowadays) views/arguments have not changed since peace negotiations began in the 50s. Their taksim views have not changed one iota. It is clear from the majority of members on this forum that their motto is: PARTITION OR A DE JURE UNIFICATION PLAN CONCEALING DE FACTO PARTITION. The Annan Plan gives testimony to this if nothing else.

The Greek Cypriots on the other hand have given up their original position of demanding enosis, but in doing so, over the years, are seemingly being dragged closer and closer towards succumbing to the Turkish nationalistic position. Those Greek Cypriots keen on being seen as moderates are in serious danger of giving too much ground in what should be a quest for all of us who are lovers of justice: PROPORTIONAL POWER-SHARING.


Precisely Simon.

The problem as it stands now is that they cannot understand they got nothing unless we agree. Did you notice what the little boy said above? He expects us to tell him "alright you won a war it's fine" He cannot even think the war is not over. He thinks he is a brave hero who deserves it all, and cannot even understand that the job was done by an army 140 times bigger than the GCs. All he knows of is crying when a population 5 times bigger than them was attacking them in the 60s - I wonder where was his braveness then... He is nothing but a nationalistic idiot who only knows how to stand attention in front of flags...

Anyway the way I see things is unless this mentality changes there is absolutely no way for the Cyprus problem to be solved. There is going to be an economic war during which they will be paying day in day out.

UNTIL THEY ROT.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:58 pm

UNTIL THEY ROT.


Pyrpolizer has a new signature, "until they rot". This is no doubt his wish, for the TC's to rot. Well my good friend I've just got back from the TRNC. I visit Cyprus every 6 to 10 weeks and from what I see on each visit it seems these people are far from rotting. If yo consider over 4000 new cars registered in 10 months as rotting, if you consider 27 world class hotels being built as rotting, if you consider 240000 smiling Turks and TC's as rotting then please let them continue rotting.

While you're at it can you extend your wishes to the TC's of the UK too, you never know we might start rotting as much as the TC's in the TRNC. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby eracles » Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:58 pm

shahmaran wrote:yeah shame you didnt have any of that "PROPORTIONAL POWER-SHARING" long time ago!

GREEKS started this, THEY caused the WAR, and THEY LOST IT!

Now have some dignity and get over it...


WorkShyMoron - (sorry nothing personal, just a laugh...got a job yet? :P )

Have you absolutely no respect for the innocent citizens wanting to go back to their homes and villages? I recognise that many mistakes were made in the past and are still being made today, but your attitude is sick.
I don't know why you're here at all. Please tell me. According to you the Cyprus problem is pretty much solved. Your effort would be far better spent working on gaining the recognition you think you deserve.
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