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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Alexandros Lordos » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:23 pm

MicAtCyp wrote:An advice to the TCs: The more you insist on the "together but separate" idea, the more you push the GCs into wanting partition

An advice to the GCs: The more you insist the TCs cannot be decision makers in a United
Cyprus, the more you push them into wanting partition.


Wisely said ...
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Postby pantelis » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:27 pm

Pick and choose ...
From:

http://www.ecmi.de/doc/CoE_Project/down ... 20FCNM.pdf


Code of Taxation Procedure
Article 9 (1): " Tax-collection authorities and public officials shall apply the law strictly and
equitably towards all tax-payers;
[34…] (2) There shall be no privileges or limitations on grounds of nationality, origin, ethnic
belonging, religion, gender, race, education, convictions, service, public, political or material
status.


CONVENTION CONCERNING INDIGENOUS AND TRIBAL PEOPLES IN
INDEPENDENT COUNTRIES, DATE OF COMING INTO FORCE 5 SEPTEMBER
1991, C 169
Article 3
1. Indigenous and tribal peoples shall enjoy the full measure of human rights and fundamental freedoms without hindrance or discrimination. The provisions of the Convention shall be applied without discrimination to male and female members of these peoples.
Article 21
Members of the peoples concerned shall enjoy opportunities at least equal to those of other citizens in respect of vocational training measures.
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Postby Alexandros Lordos » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:37 pm

pantelis wrote:Pick and choose ...
From:

http://www.ecmi.de/doc/CoE_Project/down ... 20FCNM.pdf


Code of Taxation Procedure
Article 9 (1): " Tax-collection authorities and public officials shall apply the law strictly and
equitably towards all tax-payers;
[34…] (2) There shall be no privileges or limitations on grounds of nationality, origin, ethnic
belonging, religion, gender, race, education, convictions, service, public, political or material
status.


CONVENTION CONCERNING INDIGENOUS AND TRIBAL PEOPLES IN
INDEPENDENT COUNTRIES, DATE OF COMING INTO FORCE 5 SEPTEMBER
1991, C 169
Article 3
1. Indigenous and tribal peoples shall enjoy the full measure of human rights and fundamental freedoms without hindrance or discrimination. The provisions of the Convention shall be applied without discrimination to male and female members of these peoples.
Article 21
Members of the peoples concerned shall enjoy opportunities at least equal to those of other citizens in respect of vocational training measures.


huh? :shock:
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Postby turkcyp » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:40 pm

erolz wrote:We had that in 1960 complete with an 'idependent' head of the supreme court and the municipalites issue WAS ultimately refered to the court and Makarios just refused to accept the courts ruling (leading to the resignation of the 'independent' judge as well). What would stop this happening again ?


Again well said,

I believe the foreign judge was a German citizen.

But again I also find Alexandros very farnk on this issue. The only way we can solve this problem is by having some third party judge, and I also like him believe that this kind of refusal of "supreme court decisions" can not be performed again by GCs especilly when all of us are a prt of bigger EU which solelly relies on supremacy of law.

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Postby erolz » Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:25 am

turkcyp wrote:
I believe the foreign judge was a German citizen.


For info he was Professor Ernst Forsthoff (professor of law at heidleberg universtiy)

turkcyp wrote:
But again I also find Alexandros very farnk on this issue. The only way we can solve this problem is by having some third party judge, and I also like him believe that this kind of refusal of "supreme court decisions" can not be performed again by GCs especilly when all of us are a prt of bigger EU which solelly relies on supremacy of law.

Thanks


I also find Alexandros very 'reasonable' - he gives me hope for the future which helps to balance some of posters that do the opposite.
I also think that these things can not happen today (from the violence to the disregard for law) but then that annoying 'arguing' part of my mind says they no doubt thought exactly the same in 1960?
Still I do think it is unlikely that any new consitution and law would be so disregarded - I just thought it should be pointed out that it had been in the past.
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