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[KELEBEK]

I prefer partition.

[Alexandros Lordos]

I prefer partition.

and I prefer unification

I think we could get along just fine if we give it a chance ...

and besides, no GC would contemplate a partition with any less than 82% of the island, something which Turkey would never accept.

So, "legal partition" is not a feasible option.

[insan]

no GC would contemplate a partition with any less than 82% of the island, something which Turkey would never accept.

So, "legal partition" is not a feasible option.

The question here is. what's percentage of private and state land belongs to TCs? Do we have the documents to calculate its amount? Should the economic viability and productivity of the lands be taken into consideration while calculating what percentage of land belongs to each community?

It's not hard to calculate what percentage of land belongs to each community but GC leadership in dream of takeover the whole island; prefer to keep the status quo until Turkish side surrenders...

[insan]

Moreover, if Turkey's sole aim has been to hold the North coasts of Cyprus for geopolitical reasons, as the GC leadership claimed and believed by majority of GCs; Turkey would accept even the %8-10 of the land... So there should be someting more which makes Turkish side to claim more than what provides her the North coast and shores of Cyprus. As you know this was one of the main issue of Summit and High Level Agreements of 1975-77.

[Bananiot]

Without a solution Cyprus, as it has been for eons, will be finished for ever. The northern part will become Turkey and the south part Greece. Partition will mean the end of one of the most historical and ancient places on earth. It is quite freightening to hear people contemplating partition or a velvet divorse, as they now call it rather euphemistically. True Cypriots need to stand up and be counted. Our heritage is at stake. We are facing the same kind of fate that met the dinausaurs, fifty million years ago; and this because we could not contain a handfull of bigots. Because we are afraid of slogan terrorists. Because I cannot put any faith on Papadopoulos (and his partner Christofias), and I said this many times, I am placing my hopes on the TC's and pray they do not lose any fate. I pray they keep the fire burnig for a while longer, otherwise all hope wil be lost.

[insan]

I am placing my hopes on the TC's and pray they do not lose any fate. I pray they keep the fire burnig for a while longer, otherwise all hope wil be lost.

How much longer, Bananiot? Until the upcoming elections of North and South? Or early 2006? Or... or... until a new world war breakes out? While TCs(Mostly) are waiting GCs to take the next step, GCs(some) are waiting TCs to take the next step... So who will take the next step while we wait each other to take the next step? Others. And when the other have taken the next step, we all know that it won't be satisfactory for majority of both parties.


By the way when will the next presidential and general elections be held in South?

[adonis1]

Dear friends the only other two solutions that i am willing to accept is

a) A United States of Cyprus but with a similar constitution and power sharing as in the USA (again with the 82% 18% terittory distribution).

b) A unified state with full constitutional rights for our TC compatriots.

As a GC will never accept a revolving non existent central goverment, a beaurocratic system, where no one will be accountable to the people and thus will tax us to death and destroy the economy.

As a GC will never morgage my kids future to Turkey or any other nation as such.

I know that the solution i propose is hard for the people that will not be able to return but at least, after 30 years the majority will go back to their houses and property and the rest will be reimburst for the property they lost.

If you think that what i say is nationalist and or treason then let it be it .

By the way when i ask the partittion question to G.C ( Refugees & Non Refugees) most of them agree that after 30 years a fair partition is the best solution. No more blood from either side of our beautiful island

Thanks for reading amigos and please shoot gently

[erolz]

a) A United States of Cyprus but with a similar constitution and power sharing as in the USA (again with the 82% 18% terittory distribution).

With protections to ensure the 'TC' state does not become a second GC state, also with a GC majority?

b) A unified state with full constitutional rights for our TC compatriots.

Full constituional rights for TC as indivduals or as a (equal/partner) community to the GC community?

[adonis1]

Erolz

The same power sharing that Ohio has compared with a bigger state such as California or Texas. Democracy is one person one vote not one person 5 votes. I think that what you are arquing about is the essense of the Cyprus problem since you as a community ask for a lot more than what your population grands you.

You remind me of a comedy where a smart quy was cheating a poor dumb quy by saying

one for you one for me,
two for you one two for me (1+1)
three for you, one ,two, three for me (1+1+1)

That is why we talk for 30 years and we don not find a solution and that is why i propose a fair partition.

[erolz]

Erolz

The same power sharing that Ohio has compared with a bigger state such as California or Texas. Democracy is one person one vote not one person 5 votes. I think that what you are arquing about is the essense of the Cyprus problem since you as a community ask for a lot more than what your population grands you.

I do not know the USA system very well but my understanding is that in some areas Ohio has exactly the same rights and representation as the larger states (and it others it does not). Does that mean that there is not a pure one person one vote in the USA system? As far as I understand the USA system it is this kind of equality between states (at some levels but not all) that TC want and GC refuse to accept?