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[Kifeas]

Here is something I came across recently. Spyros Papageorgiou tries to explain exactly what the Akritas Plan was all about. He recalls that while publically it was said that the 13 points were thrown just for debate without the desire to implement them unilaterally (like our nationalists say in this forum to excuse the horrid plan) the need was noted to forcible implement the plan, even unilaterally and modify the constitution.

Miltiades Christodoulou was a close friend of Archbishop Makarios. He notes. "The political and fighting leadership were working and were getting prepared to implement the plan for the modification of the Agreements and did not exclude, rather, they programmed a forced, unilateral, modification of the constitution".

Yes Bananiot, you are absolutely correct! That is why I propose that the TCs should not be expected to live and share the same country with the murderous, deceiving, untrustworthy and dishonest GCs, that did all these crimes against the innocent TCs in the past! That is why, for the sake of the innocent TCs, and so that they will not suffer again an annihilation campaign in the hands of the barbarian GCs, the two communities should each take their corner of the island, so that they will be able to live alone and separately from each other, for ever! That is why I propose that the TCs should be rightfully granted their independence and sovereignty in the 18% of the island, because that was their population and property ownership ratio in Cyprus for the last 100 years.

Den pas kalytera na gamitheis, achriste! Tha mou peis kai apo panw oti egw proagw tis doksologies tou Denktash! Egw, i esy?

[Eric dayi]

Here is something I came across recently. Spyros Papageorgiou tries to explain exactly what the Akritas Plan was all about. He recalls that while publically it was said that the 13 points were thrown just for debate without the desire to implement them unilaterally (like our nationalists say in this forum to excuse the horrid plan) the need was noted to forcible implement the plan, even unilaterally and modify the constitution.

Miltiades Christodoulou was a close friend of Archbishop Makarios. He notes. "The political and fighting leadership were working and were getting prepared to implement the plan for the modification of the Agreements and did not exclude, rather, they programmed a forced, unilateral, modification of the constitution".

Yes Bananiot, you are absolutely correct! That is why I propose that the TCs should not be expected to live and share the same country with the murderous, deceiving, untrustworthy and dishonest GCs, that did all these crimes against the innocent TCs in the past! That is why, for the sake of the innocent TCs, and so that they will not suffer again an annihilation campaign in the hands of the barbarian GCs, the two communities should each take their corner of the island, so that they will be able to live alone and separately from each other, for ever! That is why I propose that the TCs should be rightfully granted their independence and sovereignty in the 18% of the island, because that was their population and property ownership ratio in Cyprus for the last 100 years.

Den pas kalytera na gamitheis, achriste! Tha mou peis kai apo panw oti egw proagw tis doksologies tou Denktash! Egw, i esy?

Sounds like someone is upset that the truth about us TCs being forced out of the joint government and that EOKA A and B were both after ENOSIS by attempting to eliminate/genocide us TCs has been confirmed by the GCs themselves.

I am just wondering what stupid excuses the lying Greeks and GCs of this forum will find to "ridicule" this admission that the Akritas plan existed and is still in force.

[Nikitas]

If the last note says that the plan must not be copied in part or in whole and that it should not leave the HQ (where was this HQ by the way?), how did it find its way to this forum? Who leaked it? Who is the person who signs as leader? It cannot be Makarios because he is referred to it in the third person.

[Eric dayi]

If the last note says that the plan must not be copied in part or in whole and that it should not leave the HQ (where was this HQ by the way?), how did it find its way to this forum? Who leaked it? Who is the person who signs as leader? It cannot be Makarios because he is referred to it in the third person.

Well, there are couple of possibilities how the document was copied and leaked to the GC press.

either:

a) A GC within the 4% who didn't want ENOSIS and wanted no part in the genocide of the TCs infiltrated the planners of the Akritas plan.

or

b) A TC "convert" was not a "real convert" after all and managed to fool the Greeks and GCs to think he was a Greeks/GC.

The main thing is it did come out and has proven that the real intentions of the Greeks and GCs was ENOSIS and even to genocide us TCs just to fulfil the Greeks and GCs greed for expansionism.

Thank God there are 40,000 Turkish soldiers in the TRNC to prevent the Akritas plan from ever being carried out in full.

If you ever find out who leaked the Akritas plan niki, let me know who he is and I'll make sure he gets the best party thrown in his honour the world has ever seen.

[Nikitas]

Where in the plan is there a reference or indication of genocidal intentions? How many people had a copy so that one could have leaked to an anti Enosis fan or even a TC?

And where were these HQ which turned out to have been totally insecure?

The whole thing sounds like pie in the sky.

[observer]

The Akritas Plan is generally accepted to have been written by Polykarpos Yorgadjis with the assistance of Tassos Papadopoulos at the direction of Makarios. I believe that it was first published in the Greek paper Patris on 21 April 1966.

It is true that it did not specify genocide, but it does spell out how TCs were to be deprived of their rights under the Constitution by the very people who had sworn to uphold the Constitution. Polykarpos Yorgadjis was Interior Minister at the time, and Tassos Papadopoulos was Minister of Labour (I think).

No serious commentator on Cypriot affairs has ever doubted the documents authenticity. It clearly spells out in advance what happened subsequently.

Even a heavily propaganda site like http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Takism2.htm does not doubt the authenticity of the Akritas Plan, although it does put a very different spin on it.

[Kifeas]

Here is something I came across recently. Spyros Papageorgiou tries to explain exactly what the Akritas Plan was all about. He recalls that while publically it was said that the 13 points were thrown just for debate without the desire to implement them unilaterally (like our nationalists say in this forum to excuse the horrid plan) the need was noted to forcible implement the plan, even unilaterally and modify the constitution.

Miltiades Christodoulou was a close friend of Archbishop Makarios. He notes. "The political and fighting leadership were working and were getting prepared to implement the plan for the modification of the Agreements and did not exclude, rather, they programmed a forced, unilateral, modification of the constitution".

Yes Bananiot, you are absolutely correct! That is why I propose that the TCs should not be expected to live and share the same country with the murderous, deceiving, untrustworthy and dishonest GCs, that did all these crimes against the innocent TCs in the past! That is why, for the sake of the innocent TCs, and so that they will not suffer again an annihilation campaign in the hands of the barbarian GCs, the two communities should each take their corner of the island, so that they will be able to live alone and separately from each other, for ever! That is why I propose that the TCs should be rightfully granted their independence and sovereignty in the 18% of the island, because that was their population and property ownership ratio in Cyprus for the last 100 years.

Den pas kalytera na gamitheis, achriste! Tha mou peis kai apo panw oti egw proagw tis doksologies tou Denktash! Egw, i esy?

Sounds like someone is upset that the truth about us TCs being forced out of the joint government and that EOKA A and B were both after ENOSIS by attempting to eliminate/genocide us TCs has been confirmed by the GCs themselves.

I am just wondering what stupid excuses the lying Greeks and GCs of this forum will find to "ridicule" this admission that the Akritas plan existed and is still in force.

You see, even Eric KapaDayi is happy and agrees with Bananiot's assessment!

[Nikitas]

So perhaps it was a plan to dominate the island and not to "genocide" TCs or cede the island to Greece.

Subsequent events show that Makarios did not pursue a union policy and after 1968 with the withdrawal of Greek mainland forces there was not even the ability to unify with Greece. So to harp on about Enosis is way off the mark. In fact the psychopath Ioannidis wanted to have Makarios killed because he was not willing to succumb to orders from Athens.

Interpreting the Akritas plan with no reference to the hostility of the Greek junta towards Makarios is self cancelling. As is the discussion of Cyprus with no reference to double union and secret agreements between Grece and Turkey which people here in this forum conveniently forget.

[Kifeas]

The Akritas Plan is generally accepted to have been written by Polykarpos Yorgadjis with the assistance of Tassos Papadopoulos at the direction of Makarios. I believe that it was first published in the Greek paper Patris on 21 April 1966.

It is true that it did not specify genocide, but it does spell out how TCs were to be deprived of their rights under the Constitution by the very people who had sworn to uphold the Constitution. Polykarpos Yorgadjis was Interior Minister at the time, and Tassos Papadopoulos was Minister of Labour (I think).

No serious commentator on Cypriot affairs has ever doubted the documents authenticity. It clearly spells out in advance what happened subsequently.

Even a heavily propaganda site like http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Takism2.htm does not doubt the authenticity of the Akritas Plan, although it does put a very different spin on it.

And "observer" too!

[Bananiot]

Kifeas, do not forget that I met you. You are a midget of a man and your threats do not bother me. Write them in English and let everyone see the foul mouth you are.

I understand quite well your necessity to justify your recourse to Denktash after you came to the same conclusions with him but you must be brave and take everything on the chin.

After all, you became incensed not with something I said but with Christofias, who (listen to the traitor) is quite happy to allow 55k settlers to stay in Cyprus after solution. Then, if Miltiades Christodoulou (a very close friend of Makarios and member of his governments) burst your bubble, it is not my fault.

The people that come to the aid of Akritas Plan (and pretend to know better than the people that were in the thick of it) are sorry figures who have nothing to offer to their country.