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[shahmaran]

thats the spirit

[Kikapu]

plus why does my nationality matter so much? truth is always the truth, no matter whos advocating it! it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see what is going on here...

Yes it does matter in this case, because you're afraid to be called Cypriot, in the fear that you may be confused for a Greek. If I were confused for a Greek, it would not matter to me at all. I mean to say, I would not get upset over it.

You're not answering my question. You're dancing around it, but not answering it. You say that you're Turkish ( TC or TURK from Turkey?) we don't know. You say your village is Turkish, ( well it is now) therefore you don't have any Greek in you. Does that mean, that your family is from Turkey or what.? You see, this would all make sense, why you would call yourself "Northern Cyprus" and not Cypriot. You are even afraid to call yourself "Northern Cypriot", because it might tie you in with Greeks, even the slightest way. I know Turks from Turkey hate Greek anything. From Greece or Cyprus.

[Pyrpolizer]

Who told you that I don't speak Turkish Pyro.

You said it yourself that you left at the age of 4, you said your turkish is so little that you feel embarassed assosiating and speaking with other Turks in the UK, and you finally gave up from any effort. And now you tell me you are a bit from all the Turks with whom you never even have spoken, not even know anything about them. Pathetic.

[zan]

plus why does my nationality matter so much? truth is always the truth, no matter whos advocating it! it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see what is going on here...

Yes it does matter in this case, because you're afraid to be called Cypriot, in the fear that you may be confused for a Greek. If I were confused for a Greek, it would not matter to me at all. I mean to say, I would not get upset over it.

You're not answering my question. You're dancing around it, but not answering it. You say that you're Turkish ( TC or TURK from Turkey?) we don't know. You say your village is Turkish, ( well it is now) therefore you don't have any Greek in you. Does that mean, that your family is from Turkey or what.? You see, this would all make sense, why you would call yourself "Northern Cyprus" and not Cypriot. You are even afraid to call yourself "Northern Cypriot", because it might tie you in with Greeks, even the slightest way. I know Turks from Turkey hate Greek anything. From Greece or Cyprus.

I am sorry Kikapu but you don't mind being confused for a Greek???????


That is your whole philosophy behind the way you think?????

So all the arguments that we have made about our fears on losing our identity and all the assurances that we have been given that we will not does not matter to you??????


God help us.

[Noaxetogrind]

Shahmaran , I am an outsider i.e. English with no blood ties to Cyprus. other than the vague possibilty that one of my very distant ancestors stopped off in Cyprus during the crusades and had a liason with a local lady.

My command of English is, I believe, better that that of the average Briton but despite your protestations that you have answered Kikapu's question I too have failed to see that you have.

Please do so. The quesion is extremely pertinent.

[Kikapu]

plus why does my nationality matter so much? truth is always the truth, no matter whos advocating it! it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see what is going on here...

Yes it does matter in this case, because you're afraid to be called Cypriot, in the fear that you may be confused for a Greek. If I were confused for a Greek, it would not matter to me at all. I mean to say, I would not get upset over it.

You're not answering my question. You're dancing around it, but not answering it. You say that you're Turkish ( TC or TURK from Turkey?) we don't know. You say your village is Turkish, ( well it is now) therefore you don't have any Greek in you. Does that mean, that your family is from Turkey or what.? You see, this would all make sense, why you would call yourself "Northern Cyprus" and not Cypriot. You are even afraid to call yourself "Northern Cypriot", because it might tie you in with Greeks, even the slightest way. I know Turks from Turkey hate Greek anything. From Greece or Cyprus.

I am sorry Kikapu but you don't mind being confused for a Greek???????


That is your whole philosophy behind the way you think?????

So all the arguments that we have made about our fears on losing our identity and all the assurances that we have been given that we will not does not matter to you??????


God help us.

If someone asks me where I'm from, and I say "I'm from Cyprus" and they would ask" Are you Greek", are you saying, I should be offended by this question? If your answer is yes, then God should help us all.

I simply say, "No, I'm Turkish". Now, why can't Shahmaran do the same, or yourself, without feeling offended by the question been ask, "are you Greek". We are after all hard to tell apart, are we not Zan. I though at least you would have gotten what I meant, in my last post.

God helps us all indeed...Amen.!

[zan]

Who told you that I don't speak Turkish Pyro.

You said it yourself that you left at the age of 4, you said your turkish is so little that you feel embarassed assosiating and speaking with other Turks in the UK, and you finally gave up from any effort. And now you tell me you are a bit from all the Turks with whom you never even have spoken, not even know anything about them. Pathetic.

As usual you cock the whole thing up. What language do you think I speak to my mum and dad? What language do you think I spoke when we arrived in the UK? What I said is that my Turkish is not brilliant because I have had no schooling in it but I never said that I did not speak Turkish at all. I also did touch on the point that I felt embarrassed because I cannot speak proper Turkish like they do on the mainland and sometimes choose not to use the language because of that. And the fact that I am better at English but your statement was that I could not speak Turkish at all, which I have to say, is at least consistent with the usual crap you write. Your better language is obviously Greek because you persistently keep misunderstanding what I write.

[Pyrpolizer]

Your hate for anything Greek has no limits.

I am not Greek, I am a Greek Cypriot. I hate many things on the mainland Greeks, and I would never want my country to become a district of Greece.

Can you honestly say the same things for Turkey?

[zan]

Your hate for anything Greek has no limits.

I am not Greek, I am a Greek Cypriot. I hate many things on the mainland Greeks, and I would never want my country to become a district of Greece.

Can you honestly say the same things for Turkey?

You prove my point yet again. What did I say against Greeks in that post? I said you obviously speak better Greek than you do English because you misunderstand everything I write and you do the self-same thing straight away.


I used to hate many things on the main land Turkey but I have grown to love most of them because I have realised that they are a part of my makeup. I still hate a few things there but I also hate things in the UK but I am not about to ditch either. I will do my best to help change the things I do not like but I also realise that something’s' I have to lump.


No I cannot say that I am totally against being a district of Turkey IF and only IF the RoC gives us no other choice.


There is something that I know about the religion of Scientology that might help you better understand what I write, so that I do not have to repeat myself over and over again. This is the only thing I know about it so don’t ask me any more. If you are reading something, make sure you have understood every word you read before you move on because just one word can change the whole meaning of the sentence. I think it was meant to be an example of life and not to move on until you understand where you are at the moment but I really don’t know.

[shahmaran]

Right for the last time (since you dont bother reading anything i write properly!) listen up coz im getting utterly sick of this...

I AM FROM NORTH-CYPRUS AND SO IS EVERYONE IN MY FAMILY, ALWAYS WERE AND ALWAYS WILL BE!!

To be more precise, im from Lefke, a village, in the north-west, where the majority has always been Turkish Cypriot, my family in particular has never mixed with any Greek familys. Now I DO NOT get offended if people think im Greek because im from Cyprus, i have not advanced to the point to find being Greek as an insult, YET! However i find it extremely unnecessary since I AM NOT GREEK! I have my own nationality which is TURKISH CYPRIOT, and i wish to be recognized by it, not to be confused with someone else, not to be blended into someone else, but as a TURKISH CYPRIOT from TRNC, which is EXACTLY who i am!
Now Kikapu u can do whatever the hell you like with yourself, your nationality, and your background, its a free world, but this is my choice, not yours, not anyone elses, and most definately, not the GREEKS!

Have I made my self clear enough? Would you like me to send you a copy of my ID?

Back to the main point, in the case of a unification, TCs would be a drop in the ocean amongst the GCs, its a fact. Not just population wise, but also economically and politically. Why should i go there?
The point is not having to explain exactly who i am, since when asked, saying that im Cypriot is not going to exactly pinpoint my place amongst the various ethnicities on this planet, meaning language, culture, religion, history etc. you name it! YOu might feel close to the greek but i do not! As crap as that is, i also do not trust our Greek brothers on this island as much as you do, call me bitter and pessimistic but i have not seen any sign of friendliness from none of the Greeks i have ever met, nor i see anything in that direction within their political strategy.
I refuse to go to the South, i refuse to obtain a passport from them and i refuse to negotiate with them while everyone, including Turkey, is using us and strangling our liberty, in order to get an upper hand on the other.

You Greeks can bitch about the TRNC being illegal and not really Cyprus and whatever cheap shots you can take up on us, as much as you like, but this IS my country and im not going to suddenly give it up, and you better start keeping this in your mind that no matter how much harder people make life for us, not many ppl will submit to your crap! But im pretty sure Kikapu will be the first one on the line