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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:58 pm

Kifeas wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote: all this brotherly love fabrication is persuade you to swallow the minority pill, they had a chance to show their brotherly love back in 1960 and we all know where that took us.


First of all, I'm not easily persuaded by anyone. If a "TC's brother" can't do it, to pull me to his side, to go with the partition, surely the "GC enemy" that imprisoned me and my family for a week in 1963, most definitely won't be able to do it.

VP, I'm not saying to surrender to the GC's demands. I'm saying to reach an long lasting solution, by negotiations. Is Talat pushing any initiatives with PapaD, or do we wait until PapaD or the UN makes offers. Is there as much energy put into a peaceful settlement as there is for Partition, by the TC's. I don't know, so I will rely on me to tell me this.


If you to were to live the Cyprus issue on a daily basis you to would be like the majority of TCs on this island "davullun sesi uzaktan tatli gelir" the sound of the drum from a distance sounds sweet.

Negotiations, you are now taking the piss, 44 years on and look where we are today, further away than ever to finding solution. Talat is under more restrictions than Tassos and is it him that should be illustrating "brotherly love" but how can he is an ex eoka Turk hater who using the EU to get what he wants. Talat takes the intiative and bring down the bridge what do we get in return a barrage of excuses, its not a one way street.

Negotiaitons to unite have reached a brick wall as it has proven to be to complicated as both sides want different things, lets creat a level playing field so we are 2 equal sides and then sit down and negotiate, why are GCs so scared to allow us what they fit for themselves, I suggest we make moves to bring equality to both sides no army, reduction of settlers/immigrants both sides, recognized airports both sides etc?



As long as you occupy the homes and properties of 200,000 GCs, and deny them the right to have access to them and make use of their perspective incomes, there is no way a level playing field can be created. If you want to include in your above suggested parameters, the unconditional return of the GC properties that you illegally occupy, then perhaps your calls for a level playing field would be more sincere. There can be no level playing field, when one side occupies the properties of the other. Did you just forget this fact?


If you read my posts more carefully that exactly what I am saying all refugees should have the right o return or compensation but also have to accept to live in either thr TRNC of the "RoC" under the administration of each community, do you aree to come back and live with us Kifeas?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:04 am

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Kikapu suspected you are on someones payroll…

My observation is this: In each and every post of yours there is a pre-recorded list of cliches that you repeat.Now if someone else prepared you that agenta and ask you to include at least one of those points in each and every post, or whether you prepared it yourself, is something I don’t know. The fact is however that you have a very specific agenda that you repeat in each and every post. And it is not the typical recycling that most of us in here do, it is something much more elaborate.

I spotted this when in every two posts you were repeating this cliche " How can we live with those people. Even the thought is scaring. " Should I point out that after I spotted it you striked it immediately out? Was that accidental? Hmmmmm…..

Just looking back at the last 5 posts of yours I was able to once again spot 3 of your usual agenta points. None of them is even partially true, however it does reflect on the fears and insecurities of some TC people. Your contant repeatition aims in my opinion at embeding them as deep as possible on the general TC community and everyone who watches this forum without participating.

I present them herebelow. And I urge other people in here to start taking you seriously and do some systematic work in collecting your agenda points and exposing them in this forum. Notice the similarity of No 3 to No1.

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There is a clear power struggle here where the GCs want to use their numerical superioirty to turn Cyprus into one GC state with TCs as just another minority

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Typical GC warped mentality they start trouble and then blame someone else for retaliating, the same in the 1960s nothing has changed


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as their ulitimate goal is not a solution but total control of the whole island, sharing is not a word they find easy to consume as they have what they want a GC state, we are just an inconvenience to them getting hteir hands on the other 37%, thats all they really want, all this brotherly love fabrication is persuade you to swallow the minority pill


Your conspiracy theories are very amusing keep guessing as it is very entertaining and you are way off line...

Call my posts consistent...plain and simple.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:08 am

I call them an agenda.
Now everybody is aware to watch you out.
If I am right or wrong will be proven sooner or later.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:17 am

You are a full time member of the "trnc" propaganda team. You have no other employment , your posts are consistent with the policies laid down by your paymasters , strange how you are always on your computer finger ready to post a reply at any time of the day when most of us are busy earning a living VP is always there !!You have been napped pretence will simply be scorned. I think that ADMIN should take note of this.!
ps. How much do they pay you ? I think it is disgraceful that you should be spreading so much hatred for your fellow Cypriots , have you no conscious ? You have been found out !
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:20 am

miltiades wrote:Same old crap same old rubbish same old VP , head buried in a bowl of poisonous hatred swimming around in circles in 1963 he says , let us see I was 17 years old , he wasnt even born. Your true colours are exhibited for all to see , and further more I do have broad shoulders so any further insults from you just bounce off . I treat you as a thoroughly lost soul full of bubbles with no real purpose in life other than hate your fellow Cypriots . Well I do not hate you , I find your views obnoxious and derogatory but I honestly would love to meet you face to face and share a drink with you , talk not hate as you appear to do. I know your answer >>> 1963 , 33 years , massacres extermination EOKA ETC ETC


What is your problem miltiades? just because you claim to feel only brotherly love for your TC brothers does not make every right, your elected leadership are your representatives and it is their stance which also fuels division, shouldnt you be questioning them about their Cypriotism and TC brotherly love. As for my true colours being revealed I have never hidden the fact that the only real solution we "Cypriots" can ever hope to achieve is partition as this is what we deserve, 44 years of banging your head against a brick wall not enough ofr you?. You have called me names and belittled me and you the audascity to suggest we meet, are you mentally stable or just reaching senality?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:22 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:I call them an agenda.
Now everybody is aware to watch you out.
If I am right or wrong will be proven sooner or later.


Yes you are right it will reconfirm how clueless you really are :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:25 am

miltiades wrote:You are a full time member of the "trnc" propaganda team. You have no other employment , your posts are consistent with the policies laid down by your paymasters , strange how you are always on your computer finger ready to post a reply at any time of the day when most of us are busy earning a living VP is always there !!You have been napped pretence will simply be scorned. I think that ADMIN should take note of this.!
ps. How much do they pay you ? I think it is disgraceful that you should be spreading so much hatred for your fellow Cypriots , have you no conscious ? You have been found out !


Lack of arguement breeds the conspiracy theory, have you never thought that I may work in computers or am so rich I dont work.... :lol:
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Postby ken910 » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:27 am

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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:29 am

And the 44 years cliche coming out of the drawer once again. No matter how many times it was proven over and over again that the TCs started wanting a solution just 3 years ago when they smelled "Europe"

I have never hidden the fact that the only real solution we "Cypriots" can ever hope to achieve is partition as this is what we deserve, 44 years of banging your head against a brick wall not enough ofr you?.
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Postby ken910 » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:33 am

and fo 44 years u prentended u wnted peace first chance u got u kicked it out the door smelling europe next to u u have all fooled got work
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