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Postby shahmaran » Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:26 pm

i was refering to willies, because all i could gather from your vulgar and preposterous entrance into the thread by calling everyone ridiculous and uneducated on the subject (which, hypocritically, is -i presume- what you are doing right now by blaming me for asking you to simply do some reasearch) was in order to simply get some quick recognitioan and sad confidence boost on the little theories you developed, i hadnt asked you to do research to insult you but simly because your accusations against Turkey were compleatly out of reality, if this has insulted you, then you indeed need to improve your confidence on the subject, hence the willie ;)




ps. let me know if any of this doesnt make sense, maybe i can draw you some diagrams...
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Postby Simon » Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:38 pm

My accusations against Turkey are completely out of reality! Does that go with the rest of the world whom consider the Turkish occupation illegal? I have called you stupid because there is no other word to describe your comments.

I still do not see what a size of a willy has to do with anything, so you better start drawing. What does the size of a willy have to do with your confidence of your knowledge of the Cyprus problem. Your post hardly made sense and is just the rambling of someone who's trying to talk themselves out of a hole. You are either gay or immature - I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say immature.

Whether you meant to insult me or not, you did, and therefore I responded. If you are now apologising for this, then I accept your apology and am willing to forget it. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby shahmaran » Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:44 pm

talk about digging a hole....

my objection was not about the turkish occupation but the Armenian genocide.

if my initial response was insulting to you then so was your initial post on the thread insulting to all of us, i didnt think you would be capable of comprehending everyhting i said, which is indeed very amusing, you are not only vulgar and incapable but you are also sexist, i have nothing more to say to you...good day.
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Postby Simon » Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:55 pm

[quote]my objection was not about the turkish occupation but the Armenian genocide. [/quote]

So you admit the occupation is illegal then? The genocide is so obvious to anybody who is not biased. Consult history books, historians, governments, the UN etc. If you knew anything about history you would know the genocide happened. To deny the genocide is even more stupid than denying the occupation is illegal.

[quote]if my initial response was insulting to you then so was your initial post on the thread insulting to all of us[/quote]

All of us being? You now have the authority to speak on behalf of everybody else. You sound like Talat :lol: What part was insulting, the truth?

You do not even respond to my posts but just make generalised comments. Typical from a person who has no legitimate arguments.

What part is sexiest? LOL You are so thick! :lol: Let me help you, you probably mean homophobic. I am not homophobic, just merely making an assumption on why you suddenly brought willies into the subject, when it is so out of context. :lol:
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Postby shahmaran » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:04 pm

Simon wrote:
my objection was not about the turkish occupation but the Armenian genocide.


So you admit the occupation is illegal then? The genocide is so obvious to anybody who is not biased. Consult history books, historians, governments, the UN etc. If you knew anything about history you would know the genocide happened. To deny the genocide is even more stupid than denying the occupation is illegal.

if my initial response was insulting to you then so was your initial post on the thread insulting to all of us


All of us being? You now have the authority to speak on behalf of everybody else. You sound like Talat :lol: What part was insulting, the truth?

You do not even respond to my posts but just make generalised comments. Typical from a person who has no legitimate arguments.

What part is sexiest? LOL You are so thick! :lol: Let me help you, you probably mean homophobic. I am not homophobic, just merely making an assumption on why you suddenly brought willies into the subject, when it is so out of context. :lol:


Simon you are such an amazing DICK it stupifys me! IF i thought, you were SCARED of homosexuality, then i would have called you a homoPHOBIC, but since you are using homosexuality to insult me -therefore degrading homosexuality- that makes you a SEXIST! DO YOU get me my THICK cyber friend!

So if you are going to teach me English then i suggest you do a hell of a lot more reading :lol:

I believe i have answered to you, and explained why i dont aggree with your pathetic claims about the situation, but since you are soooo grown up and mature and inteligent, you have chosen to simply attack and take some cheap shots at me, which is fine, i can play both ways my friend, but i tell you only one of them is actually going to get us anywhere worth going, and this is not the one ;)
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Postby Simon » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:30 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Definition of homophobia from Oxford dictionary:

• noun an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexuals.

— DERIVATIVES homophobe noun homophobic adjective.

You do not have to fear homosexuals to be homophobic. Just DISLIKE them. You are so stupid its amusing. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Degrading homosexuality does not make you sexist. You clearly do not know what the word 'sexist' means. So let me help you with this also.

Sexism in Oxford Dictionary:

• noun prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.

If I was prejudiced against homosexuals, this would mean men and women. So where is the sexism in that? Sexism is where you discriminate against a sex, ON THE BASIS OF THEIR SEX; NOT THEIR SEXUAL PREFERENCE.

Btw, I am not actually sexist or homophobic; but just pointing out to you your ignorance.

Seriously, I really should start charging you for these English lessons. :lol:

Again I say, you attacked me first. If you now wish to put a halt to this pathetic slanging match, I am willing.
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Postby shahmaran » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:03 pm

MY GOD WHAT A MORON! a PHOBIA is the fear of something, whatever u attach to it... u are degrading people for their sexual preference, doesnt matter if they have a willy or a punnanni, you cannot tell a homosexual what their gender is! u are SUCH a fuckin idiot i cannot believe i am actually lowering myself this much to teach you english, screw you, im done with you kiddo :lol: :lol:

dam right you are willing chump! you know i did not attack you, but together we have managed to fuck this thread up compleatly, nice going ;)

oh and use a more articulate dictionary next time....

ho·mo·pho·bi·a /ˌhoʊməˈfoʊbiə/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hoh-muh-foh-bee-uh] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.
[Origin: 1955–60; homo(sexual) + -phobia]

—Related forms
ho·mo·pho·bic, adjective
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ho·mo·pho·bi·a (hō'mə-fō'bē-ə) Pronunciation Key
n.

1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.
2. Behavior based on such a feeling.



[homo(sexual) + -phobia.]

ho'mo·phobe' n., ho'mo·pho'bic adj.
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homophobia

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prejudice against (fear or dislike of) homosexual people and homosexuality

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Main Entry: ho·mo·pho·bia
Pronunciation: "hO-m&-'fO-bE-&
Function: noun
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals —ho·mo·phobe /'hO-m&-"fOb/ noun —ho·mo·pho·bic /"hO-m&-'fO-bik/ adjective
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:25 pm

Since the topic is already a mess I have one question for Shah.
You said you lived all your life in Lefka and Turkey.

So where did you learn all these English?
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Postby ken910 » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:30 pm

sory but youre origin is greek youre religion is orthodox one of the most dwelling of religiongs into politics in world but u want to be called cypriot for now until u decide later now we want to be greek lets try again ,u guys have dream of cyprus without turks the rest is mumbo jumbo
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Postby miltiades » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:37 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
This post really sums you up, how out of touch you really are, we have TRNC passports and can travel all over the world with them, there maybe an inconvenience of getting visas but this would be the same for many other countries, like the 45 minutes we have to wait on a plane when flying to the TRNC these are very small prices to pay for having your own country recognized or not. That very fine line between recognition and nonrecognition will one day be crossed and people like Kikapu and Bir will disappear into history as the people who wanted the TCs to accept a GC state where they would be a minority ruled by GCs while they themselves lived and died abroad.


Viewpoint,

This topic seems to be flying off the shelf. If I don't respond right away, then there goes another 10 pages of "new" stuff.

That's a new one on me, that "TRNC" can issue passports for the world consumption, when the world does not recognise "TRNC" one little bit. So please educate me, which countries actually issued you visas to travel to. I'm going to assume, you applied for these visas from the embassies of the countries to be visited, in the "TRNC" or was it in the RoC.? How does the world not recognise the "TRNC" to commerce with, but will accept it's unrecognised State's passports.? Need to look this up, and I hope you are right, because I'm getting to print some "TRNC" money, so that I can exchange it with other countries currency. I would have thought, same principle would apply there also.!!


VP, each day you post something, it becomes more and more clear, that you are an uncaring, insensitive, rude, robotic, cold, manipulator, aggressive, with half truths to lies. You respond to serious issues with a smirk on your face, because you have the luxury to hide behind your keyboard and the Turkish Army. I hate insignificant people who can talk big while being protected. Same way I hated when Bush makes a stand against the Insurgents in Iraq, when he showed how tough he was, by saying to them " Bring it On". You'll never get you hands dirty, fighting to create your Partition, because even if you did managed it, which I will very much doubt, you and your family will forever have to live behind the Turkish Army. There may come a day, when they may not be there anymore to protect you, ever thought about that.? Don't get me wrong, I love going to Turkey once in a while, and have a lot of family members there, but I'm also happy when I leave .

If I die today, I will know, that I died as a True Cypriot, from North to South and East to West of Cyprus. Even if I died in the "TRNC" I will still consider it as Cyprus, because it is. If I died living in a Partitioned part of Cyprus, then it would not make a difference if I died there or North America, because as far as I'm concern, they both will be foreign land to me, only, one will be much further than the other.

No one has asked you to live under GC rule, if we had the Federation System. Why do you want to distort the truth, when you know damn well, you are creating a fear and nothing else. Assimilating with the Greeks is another of your lies. If you want to protect your Cypriot heritage, then stay away from Turkey, but then again, you claim, that's where we all came from. Well, you know where the Ercan Airport is, you won't even need a passport, even one from the "TRNC".!

BTW, before I go any further, do you get paid by the number of Posts you make, or number of misinformation you print, for whom ever is paying you. Also, are there more than one person behind your Avatar signature "Viewpoint", because the style of your writing tends to change from time to time, and for a person who claims to have a wife, children, and a job, you seem to spend a lot of time on the Forum. Just how do you do that. Man you need to get a life a little, but then again, you're not the only one who does all the writing.!!

So let me continue a little bit longer. What do you think it's going to happen, if there was a partition at some point. Do you think the world is going to recognise you anymore than today.? Don't you think, within a short time, you will be swallowed (assimilated) by the mainland Turks, then you will not have any voice left at all.? The new "promised land" will probably called the "New Anatolia", except, all illicit things that cannot happen in a religious Turkey, will all be happening in the "New Anatolia". It will be, anything goes, type of "New Anatolia". Do you see that as a good place to raise your kids, where drug use and prostitution and gambling , with contract killings be all around you. A little bit like the scene from "Back to the Future", when Biff, turns the whole town into the above scenario.

Before you start your usual response with half truths and lies, let me tell you where I stand for future of Cyprus. The days of the old Republic is long gone. I would like to see one central government under a Federation System, where Northern Part of Cyprus is mainly a Turkish Cypriot State, with it's own laws for it's people, and the same for the GC's in Southern Cyprus. The Federal Rules, will over ride "State" rule, to protect, civil liberties, property ownership, freedom of expression, minority rights, and so on. It will be called the "United States of Cyprus".

Now you can have your say...........


Kikapu , you have said all that I wanted to say but just di not get the time, as you can see I can now use the "quote " Lena emailed me instructions and my dear friend , and dont any one dare insult him , mrfromng telephoned me last evening and took me through the process , so here you are !!
ps. VP has been telling us for some time now that he is the proud owner of a passport issued by the "TRNC" !!
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