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[shahmaran]

maybe we can bribe him

[zan]

maybe we can bribe him

Name your price Simon.

[Simon]

[quote]So you take all the history and the NEWS REPORTS of the time and refute everything. Every quote and comment by world leaders about the killings, every eye witness report every con fession and say it did not happen. Tell me what does it take to convince you?[/quote]

Maybe about the same as it takes Turkey to accept the genocide of the Armenians? There is a hell of a lot more evidence for that. How many Armenians dead again?

All the history? A few news reports and anecdotal evidence? Like I say above, eye witnesses etc witnessed nationalist fighting where TCs maybe came off worse. All my points above still stand. If a concerted effort of ethnic cleansing was in process, then there would have been a hell of a lot more than a few hundred dead.

[zan]

So the Armenians cancel out the TCs is that it?

Have you ever read any of the news reports and the UN reports and the British reports???

[Pyrpolizer]

The links of Zan. Who even dares call other people brainwashed and biased.
Buy yourself a mirror man. You even tell me "does this make them wrong".

BCTCA
British Council of Turkish Cypriot Associations
Ingiltere Kibris Turk Orgutleri Konseyi
25TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE LANDING OF THE TURKISH ARMED FORCES IN CYPRUS IN 1974

[Pyrpolizer]

Good night.
My job is not to care for the mentally disturbed. Sorry.

[shahmaran]

So what is your point Pyr? how does that make it any less objective compared to the GC crap we have to deal with all day everyday, soon they will hang up posters on our foreheads as we sleep! talk about propaganda man!

Armenians died during a big war, GCs got ethnicaly clensed during a war, TCs got massacared in a massive campaign!

There is the difference Simon! go do some more reasearch and come back!

[zan]

The links of Zan. Who even dares call other people brainwashed and biased.
Buy yourself a mirror man. You even tell me "does this make them wrong".

BCTCA
British Council of Turkish Cypriot Associations
Ingiltere Kibris Turk Orgutleri Konseyi
25TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE LANDING OF THE TURKISH ARMED FORCES IN CYPRUS IN 1974

Told you, must be wrong then

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Pyrpolizer

What Birk was telling you is that you have no chance to keep your identity in the sea of Turks,

Thats just an opinion and even if it were true we would be returning to our routes which is Turkish not Greek.

whereas you have zero chance to lose your identity in any reunification solution. For your information there is also fear spread from GC nationalists that we are going to be Turkified. But we know very well how to silence the idiots among us. Time you to learn to do the same.

Says who Pyro?, so that makes it ok...come on we are not children here, we are aware that numerically we will in time become assimilated in someway, its just a choice between Turkish or Greek Cypriot.

GCs will be Turkified by 250.000 TCs come you are now taking the piss, its obviously a joke that you have no problem shuting people up. For us its a reality.

Could you explain me this new theory? I heard this many times even Talat said something. How is this osmosis going to happen in practical terms? Or is it just another vague theory?

Osmose. diffusion of two communities through a process of a higher concentration of GCs against a lower concentration of TCs until the concentration on both sides is one.

So a gradual saturation of GCs being the majority will ensure that the smaller community will confrom to the demands of the majority which will in time dillute and erase any signs of TCs existence.

What Talat refers is the "RoC" wish is trying to impose its will on the north and the TCs diffusing them into the GC state as is, he is using the EU to this aim and has no intention of creating a virgin birth situation where both the TRNC and "RoC" woudl be dissolved to form a new united Cyprus.

Btw Hran Dink the assasinated Armenian journalist spoke Turkish right? Did he lose any of his Armenian culture?

Now you are really contradicting yourself, as you always claim these people cannot express their culture in Turkey and do not have the freedom like others countries then surely according to you he must have lost his culture. Which is it?

I do the same to GCs who deserve it. It has nothing to do with ethnicity. It seems you forgot when I stood by you. Yeap, I fire at everyone who deserves it. That’s why they call me Pyr.

Is the above the answer to my question why the hell do you want to reunite with TCs you hate and lothe us belittling us at every opportunity, or do you have ulterior motives and hidden agendas?

First of all my claim was not that, but the reference to the 2 villages I mentioned and to the fact that they live today as happily together as they lived before 1974.

Are you really 100% sure about this, those TCs and GCs in Pile dont even mix, they have seperate restaurants, shops, cafes football teams and you call that healthy and happy.

To give you an indication about the pre 1974 situation Shah, when someones threatens to take your political rights from the RoC you don't abandon the parliament and withdraw your Ministers and drag them all into a self proclaimed TC republic in an enclave.

Thrown out at gunpoint and not allowed back until the accepted Aktritas is more like the truth.

What are you talking about? What law did the GCs ever passed in the 60s to force the Greek language on you. What law could they pass, describe me that law.

I was trying to explain that if there are no safeguards in place laws like this could easily be passed by the majority vote being the GCs.

The action taken in the 1960s was to force TCs to speak Greek as they woudl not learn Turkish or even if they knew they would not reply, so TCs had to converse in greek to interact with GCs.

My strong opinion is in case of solution is no one should be able to become government employee unless he speaks both languages . You like, VP?

If ever there is a miracle and we find a solution this could be a safeguard to ensure both languages are utilized.

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1st)Give us the link, so that everybody can judge who is brainwashed and who is not.
2nd)The UN send a peace keeping force. What for do you think? To help innocent civilians? Or to keep those who where killing on both sides appart?
3rd) I did not talk about going to the UN and asking them to send a peace keeping force! I talked of going to the UN as a community to report the alledged actions of RoC of forcing you out of the Government. Your community did not do so, BECAUSE YOUR MPs AND YOUR MINISTERS WERE ORDERED BY ANKARA TO WITHDRAW FROM THE GOVERNMENT, using as an excuse the 13 points proposal.

Your turn now to judge who was USING you from the 60s until TODAY.Who was actually playing with your own missery and suffering.

These are stories you were brain washed with and are unable to look beyond these distorted lies.