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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:28 am

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miltiades wrote:VP wrote:
"""I only expressed my opinion as to your choice and sense of loyality, which is clearly with your GC brothers"""

Put me down as well foreigner , because my loyalty is also with mt T/C brothers as well as all other Cypriots. You and the likes of you are not , as you have told us many times , Cypriots .You more than any body else ought to seriously consider a return to your motherland, because Cyprus belongs to the Cypriots not to foreigners .Kikapu and the likes of him can see reality , can see the denigration of the Turkish Cypriot ethnicity and the upsurge of Turkish mainland ethnicity. Many prices to pay you say for having your own country, is Cyprus not your country ? Only the Turkish administered North with 40 thousand foreign troops on its soil?


But what you have to yet to wake up to is that the majority of your so called TC brothers don't want you. The only way they would even contemplate living with you is via a plan such as the one you resoundingly rejected. If TCs were so keen to unite with their GC "brothers" they are all free to travel south of the border and live in the "RoC", how many have taken up this offer? Id say near to none. That must tell you a great deal but you are so blind its like someone spitting in your face you'd say its raining.


VP why do you always think you speka on behalf of the majority of TC's when you speak of partition? Was there a vote?


Although you may not like it I do speak for the majority of TCs without the politeness and refrain from speaking up you will see when you meet TCs.
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Postby DT. » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:41 am

I have met some tc's but due to my work i've met more mainland turks who are pro unification. (might be cause they don't really care and want out of that mess)

I would urge you to refrain from callling anyone that disagrees with you an asslicker or traitor. If you disagree with what Bir and kikapou are saying shouldn't you be wondering how these TC's are saying what they are? SHouldn't you also wonder that there are TC's in the north that also think like that?

WHat will you do with these people? Hope they grow old and die and there crazy cypriot ideas die with them? WHo will be left then? You and Zan celebrating your turkishness with some cypriot seasoning on it. Joining hands with the ever-growing hordes of turkish workers coming over to the island to replace the likes of kikapu and Bir.

Soon enough the "trnc" flag flashing in our faces every night will be stripped of those two lines and you will be content with just having your turkish flag. Sooner or later one of your "presidents" will be a turk from the mainland, and his quest will not be to re-unite the island but will be making plans on adjusting his position from "president" of this "trnc" to Mayor of the province of northern cyprus.

We've done our bit to push your boat down this river you're following, but you didn't have to attach a 400hp volvo penta engine so that you can get there faster......
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Postby zan » Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:11 am

DT wrote:I have met some tc's but due to my work i've met more mainland turks who are pro unification. (might be cause they don't really care and want out of that mess)

I would urge you to refrain from callling anyone that disagrees with you an asslicker or traitor. If you disagree with what Bir and kikapou are saying shouldn't you be wondering how these TC's are saying what they are? SHouldn't you also wonder that there are TC's in the north that also think like that?

WHat will you do with these people? Hope they grow old and die and there crazy cypriot ideas die with them? WHo will be left then? You and Zan celebrating your turkishness with some cypriot seasoning on it. Joining hands with the ever-growing hordes of turkish workers coming over to the island to replace the likes of kikapu and Bir.

Soon enough the "trnc" flag flashing in our faces every night will be stripped of those two lines and you will be content with just having your turkish flag. Sooner or later one of your "presidents" will be a turk from the mainland, and his quest will not be to re-unite the island but will be making plans on adjusting his position from "president" of this "trnc" to Mayor of the province of northern cyprus.

We've done our bit to push your boat down this river you're following, but you didn't have to attach a 400hp volvo penta engine so that you can get there faster......



Not if I can help it DP and if you are that concerned then you should give us the Turkish Cypriots some support and stop pushing us into the arms of Turkey. Partition in one form or another is here to stay. I don't celebrate it in the sense that you think I do but I will celebrate common sense in that it is the best option given the circumstances.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:36 pm

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VP you keep on doing it , calling the kettle black, who is the blind , the individual who claims that all Cypriots are his brothers and that the people of Cyprus will one day unite ,


You need to convince your own administration first not me, their policies do not support your arguement.

or YOU who still follows that ridiculous laughable stance that the Only Cyprus that exists is the Turkish protectorate Northern Cyprus,


Yet again you read but you do not understand there are 2 Cyprus's north and south, the reality is we have been divided for 33 years. The south is a GC state run by GCs for Gcs, I am not denying this.

so first you invade , [ I say you because I consider you , as you have stated many times , a Turks NOT a Cypriot , ] you grab a large chunk of Cyprus then you proclaim to the world that only the TRNC exists ,is the one that has on its soil 40 thousand troops .


This again displays your own biased that we just grabbed 37% of the island cause we felt like it one sunny day. Really you need to upgrade your arguements as this is laughable.

You are not only the blind one but also the sad and dejected individual who lives in a fools paradise.


So thats my problem not yours.

You are following old policies of partition and stop kidding your self that the majority of T/Cs are like you. Because they are not , and yes thousands of T/Cs work in the ROC ! Not many left any way , most have left.


You wanna bet?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:51 pm

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I have met some tc's but due to my work i've met more mainland turks who are pro unification. (might be cause they don't really care and want out of that mess)


They probably don't understand the real problems and were being polite, not able to reveal their true feeling towards TCs., as you are the enemy after all.

I would urge you to refrain from callling anyone that disagrees with you an asslicker or traitor. If you disagree with what Bir and kikapou are saying shouldn't you be wondering how these TC's are saying what they are? SHouldn't you also wonder that there are TC's in the north that also think like that?

WHat will you do with these people? Hope they grow old and die and there crazy cypriot ideas die with them? WHo will be left then?


If you referring to me I didn't call any one an ass licker, Bir and Kikaupolous have lived abroad for so long they have lost all touch with the reality of the situation, text book and hands experience are totally different.
I live with those TCs who are not as clear cut in their opinions as you are trying to make out another 10 years of the GC stance and they will also disappear.

You and Zan celebrating your turkishness with some cypriot seasoning on it. Joining hands with the ever-growing hordes of turkish workers coming over to the island to replace the likes of kikapu and Bir.


Does it concern you? and why? this is my choice and not yours.

Soon enough the "trnc" flag flashing in our faces every night will be stripped of those two lines and you will be content with just having your turkish flag. Sooner or later one of your "presidents" will be a turk from the mainland, and his quest will not be to re-unite the island but will be making plans on adjusting his position from "president" of this "trnc" to Mayor of the province of northern cyprus.


This I can accept and live with but not a GC president and a gc state with me as a minority.....thanks but no thanks.

We've done our bit to push your boat down this river you're following, but you didn't have to attach a 400hp volvo penta engine so that you can get there faster......


At last common sense, you had a golden opportunity and threw it away now you are trying to recoup your loss well forgive me wanting whats best for my community but we have had a taste of GC hospitality and Turkish hospitality and believe me we know which one is best. Your current policies will continue to confirm this until you have lost us forever and you will have to negotiate with a Turkish President in the north (according to your theory)
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:34 pm

Placing myself in the shoes of the TCs:

We go throw out on gunpoint all the Tcs from Otrakoyu. Nice place. We bring in a few thousand GCs and some more thousand Pontian Greeks to replace them. We rename the village to something like NeoChorio, (NC) paint a huge Greek flag on the hill, and start breathing the oxygen of this new country. We shout and scream we are not Cypriots, we are citizens of the Greek Republic of NC, what a nice feeling.
But shit. Everything there smells Turkish, even the trees they planted seem Turkish, damn… I watch the moon at night, its like a blue Turkey.

And just look at those bloody Turks we threw out of Ortakoyu, to go live on the rocks. They crashed the rocks down and found water below, lucky bastards, they bacame richer than us. Sometime around 1995 we throw away the bloody Turkish Ortakoyu stamps, and shit our new NC stamps aren’t useful anymore for exports. The bloody Turks isolated us on top of everything.

I look around me at the NC the most lousy of us just gather around the flag on the hill breathing Greek oxygen in the evenings ,shouting their asses out for our GREEKNESS in voices called VP, Zan, and Shah. Some of us, lousy chicks, just stay behind thinking and thinking and thinking something ain’t right. Some of those called Birk and Kikapu dare come and explain us, yet we don’t want to hear nothing. We tell them look at the Great Greek flag that saved us breath the Greek oxygen around you, and feel happy like we do. One day our NC country will become known in Japan, and every little Japanese boy will be talking about us.

Oh, what a lovely feeling to be a GREEK in Ortakoyu NC.

NB.Now watch Zan fabricating a poem or something for the period before the Greeks outsted the Turks from Ortakoyu, woops sorry from NC I mean.
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:39 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:........But shit. Everything there smells Turkish, even the trees they planted seem Turkish, damn… I watch the moon at night, its like a blue Turkey.



BWWAHHAHAAHHAH!!! (wipes the spit off his monitor)

Get over yourself Pyr, come on now, seriously! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:57 pm

You just added -0.000000001 cents to the worth of your overall contribution in this forum Shah. :lol:
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:03 pm

i am sorry Pyr, you are absolutely right, i did not bring any worthy constructive criticism, to your extremely accurate and original, depiction of what you seem to think that it is WE think!

try again Pyr! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This time with less drama and more realism...
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:15 pm

No, re that would be a pitty for your poor monitor.
I already see you switching from spitting to urinating on it, that's all you always do after all. And that's all you are good at.

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