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[zan]

http://www.enetricity.com/unu/admin/doc ... Cyprus.pdf

[Sotos]

What is interesting? That he is calling the occupied areas as "trnc" without the quotes? If he lying right from the beginning then why waste our time?

[shahmaran]

its not suprizing to see that that is the only thing which has drawn your attention, what did u think about the fonts he used, pretty hey?

sotos also seems to think that its ok to make comments about Turkish history without actually having to read anything about it, way to go Sotos, u got it all sorted out buddy!

[humanist]

thanks for sharing the article Zan, it is rather interesting. Not sure whetehr it really says anything new.

[Sotos]

I don't give a fuck about Turkish history. I am not interested in reading about genocides and ethnic cleansings. If I wanted to learn the history of a 3rd country I would choose one with a civilization and a culture. But I know Cyprus history better than you. Maybe for example you don't know that "trnc" is legally invalid? Here, learn it now:

RESOLUTION 541

The Security Council,

Having heard the statement of the Foreign Minister of the Government of the Republic of Cyprus,

Concerned at the declaration by the Turkish Cypriot authorities issued on 15 November 1983 which purports to create an independent state in northern Cyprus,

Considering that this declaration is incompatible with the 1960 Treaty concerning the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus and the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee,

Considering therefore that the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus", is invalid, and will contribute to a worsening of the situation in Cyprus,

Reaffirming its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975),

Aware of the need for a solution of the Cyprus problem, based on the mission of good offices undertaken by the Secretary-General,

Affirming its continuing support for the United Nations Peace-Keeping Force in Cyprus,

Taking note of the Secretary-General's statement of 17 November 1983,

1. Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Considers the declaration referred to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;

3. Calls for the urgent and effective implementation of its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975);

4. Requests the Secretary-General to pursue his mission of good offices in order to achieve the earliest possible progress towards a just and lasting settlement in Cyprus;

5. Calls upon the parties to cooperate fully with the Secretary-General in his mission of good offices;

6. Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and non-alignment of the Republic of Cyprus;

7. Calls upon all States not to recognise any Cypriot state other than the Republic of Cyprus;

8. Calls upon all States and the two communities in Cyprus to refrain from any action which might exacerbate the situation;

9. Requests the Secretary-General to keep the Security Council fully informed.
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

ANother one:

RESOLUTION 550

The Security Council,

Having considered the situation in Cyprus at the request of the Government of the Republic of Cyprus,

Having heard the statement made by the President of the Republic of Cyprus,

Taking note of the report of the Secretary-General (S/16519),

Recalling its resolutions 365(1974), 367(1975), 541(1983) and 544(1983),

Deeply regretting the non-implementation of its resolutions, in particular resolution 541(1983),

Gravely concerned about the further secessionist acts in the occupied part of the Republic of Cyprus which are in violation of resolution 541(1983), namely the purported "exchange of Ambassadors" between Turkey and the legally invalid "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" and the contemplated holding of a "Constitutional referendum" and "elections", as well as by other actions or threats of action aimed at further consolidating the purported independent state and the division of Cyprus,

Deeply concerned about recent threats for settlement of Varosha by people other than its inhabitants,

Reaffirming its continuing support for the United Nations Peace-Keeping Force in Cyprus,

1. Reaffirms its resolution 541(1983) and calls for its urgent and effective implementation,

2. Condemns all secessionist actions, including the purported exchange of Ambassadors between Turkey and the Turkish Cypriot leadership, declares them illegal and invalid and calls for their immediate withdrawal;

3. Reiterates the call upon all States not to recognise the purported state of the "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" set up by secessionist acts and calls upon them not to facilitate or in any way assist the aforesaid secessionist entity;

4. Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity, unity and non-alignment of the Republic of Cyprus;

5. Considers attempts to settle any part of Varosha by people other than its inhabitants as inadmissible and calls for the transfer of this area to the administration of the United Nations;

6. Considers any attempts to interfere with the status or the deployment of the United Nations Peace-Keeping Force in Cyprus as contrary to the resolutions of the United Nations;

7. Requests the Secretary-General to promote the urgent implementation of Security Council resolution 541(1983);

8. Reaffirms its mandate of good offices given to the Secretary General and requests him to undertake new efforts to attain an overall solution to the Cyprus problem in conformity with the principles of the Charter of the United Nations and the provisions for such a settlement laid down in the pertinent United Nations resolutions, including Security Council resolution 541(1983) and the present resolution;

9. Calls upon all parties to cooperate with the Secretary-General in his mission of good offices;

10. Decides to remain seized of the situation with a view to taking urgent and appropriate measures in the event of non-implementation of its resolution 541(1983) and the present resolution;

11. Requests the Secretary-General to promote the implementation of the resolution and to report thereon to the Security Council as developments require.

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr550.htm

[BirKibrisli]

I had a quick look,and as humanist said,it doesn't say anything new,especially for those of us who have been living and breathing this Problem for the past 50 years...

But it looks quiet well balanced,if Sotos would excuse the lack of inverted commas! This is how the whole issue seems to TCs,Sotos,without all that emotional baggage. I urge you to read it and think about it. You can then dismiss it if you like as "propaganda",but you owe it to yourself and to our Cyprus to read it first...

[shahmaran]

There there Sotos chill out buddy, be a good sport and go play elsewhere so the big boys can talk ok?

Unfortunately Birkibrisli, Sotos doesnt need to read about anything he simply "knows".

[Piratis]

Since the consensus is that there is nothing new in that document I will not waste any time for it. If there is any interesting part you can quote it here.

I urge you to read it and think about it. You can then dismiss it if you like as "propaganda",but you owe it to yourself and to our Cyprus to read it first...

Bir, if a document had a title such as "All about the barbarian Turks" would you need to read any further to judge it?

[shahmaran]

Well according to your interesting analogy, the title of this paper has to be something along the lines of "Turkish Cypriot Genocide"

However its titled "Reintegration in Cyprus: Nationalism and Citizenship in the RoC and the TRNC"

Dont you and Sotos think that its pretty silly to ignore the paper of a professor without reading it? Specially when its simply because its missing some quotation marks that supposedly support your cause?!

Jesus guys, talk about being touchy!

[BirKibrisli]

Since the consensus is that there is nothing new in that document I will not waste any time for it. If there is any interesting part you can quote it here.

I urge you to read it and think about it. You can then dismiss it if you like as "propaganda",but you owe it to yourself and to our Cyprus to read it first...

Bir, if a document had a title such as "All about the barbarian Turks" would you need to read any further to judge it?

The point is Piratis that this is how most TCs see the Cypro issues,without the usual emotional baggage that comes with it. I think it is good for people who hold strong opposing views to read it,just to see where the other side is coming from. It can only help the process of understanding between us.It says nothing to me as a TC but it might say something new to you,who knows? But you have probably heard everything under the sun writen and said on this issue,Piratis gardash.I have a strong feeling I am wasting my breath.Or the energy in my fingers,more likely.