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[insan]

Those red lines consist to 3 sine qua nons of Turkish side...


"Asked about the issues, which are sine qua nons for him regarding the Cyprus problem, Erdogan replied: "There are three things that I consider as sine qua nons at the moment. The first is the sovereignty issue and the partnership state based on two peoples. The second is that we have to draw a line with not many zigzags on the map and we have to accept now the 29 % plus, given that there has been a reference in the past for a percentage about 29 % and that the Turks at the moment control the 35 % - 36 % of the territory. The third is the guarantees of Greece and Turkey". "


http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/tcpr/200 ... .tcpr.html

[uzan]

[quote="Alasya"]Below is a letter that was published in the Cyprus mail a few days ago. I found it interesting. I wonder if a second referenda were called how many G/C would change their vote. What is everyones view on the contents of this letter?


"Let’s revive the Annan plan

Sir,
I feel betrayed and angry that our tough-talking president said he would veto Turkey if our conditions were not met, but changed his mind at the last minute. In fact he actually supported the beginning of Turkey-EU accession talks. I could not believe I saw him clapping and smiling when Turkey got its date. Bravo sou!P

While Turkey will start talks next year, Cyprus will still be divided, its refugees unable to return to their homes, and our country will remain heavily militarised and under Turkish mainland occupation.

I voted against the Annan plan like most Greek Cypriots on the advice of our tearful president. He painted the impression that once we are firmly in the EU, we could practically force the Turks to accept our demands, securing us a solution we wanted. Why was I so misguided?

More importantly I have learnt one important lesson from the post-referenda events, that it is morally wrong for us Greek Cypriots to try to broker a deal with Ankara, while bypassing our Turkish Cypriot friends. It is an insult to our Turkish Cypriot friends, the people who voted for the reunification of our common country, to reject them.

We co-exist and our destiny is with the Turkish-Cypriots not with Turkey.
Let’s revive the Annan plan and begin talks. Next time we will vote a resounding YES.

Peter Antoniou, Bexley, Kent"[/quotePeter my dest compatriot I would love to meet more people like you, I do not live too far from you . Again I am insisting to claim that the Ortodox Church influence the present president to call for an Oxi vote. We all make mistakes we now need to correct it and you could continue tom express your opinion on the matter. I will certainly do the same. Happy New year to you.

[uzan]

[quote="Alasya"]Below is a letter that was published in the Cyprus mail a few days ago. I found it interesting. I wonder if a second referenda were called how many G/C would change their vote. What is everyones view on the contents of this letter?


"Let’s revive the Annan plan

Sir,
I feel betrayed and angry that our tough-talking president said he would veto Turkey if our conditions were not met, but changed his mind at the last minute. In fact he actually supported the beginning of Turkey-EU accession talks. I could not believe I saw him clapping and smiling when Turkey got its date. Bravo sou!P

While Turkey will start talks next year, Cyprus will still be divided, its refugees unable to return to their homes, and our country will remain heavily militarised and under Turkish mainland occupation.

I voted against the Annan plan like most Greek Cypriots on the advice of our tearful president. He painted the impression that once we are firmly in the EU, we could practically force the Turks to accept our demands, securing us a solution we wanted. Why was I so misguided?

More importantly I have learnt one important lesson from the post-referenda events, that it is morally wrong for us Greek Cypriots to try to broker a deal with Ankara, while bypassing our Turkish Cypriot friends. It is an insult to our Turkish Cypriot friends, the people who voted for the reunification of our common country, to reject them.

We co-exist and our destiny is with the Turkish-Cypriots not with Turkey.
Let’s revive the Annan plan and begin talks. Next time we will vote a resounding YES.

Peter Antoniou, Bexley, Kent"[/quotePeter my dest compatriot I would love to meet more people like you, I do not live too far from you . Again I am insisting to claim that the Ortodox Church influence the present president to call for an Oxi vote. We all make mistakes we now need to correct it and you could continue tom express your opinion on the matter. I will certainly do the same. Happy New year to you.

[uzan]

[quote="Alasya"]Below is a letter that was published in the Cyprus mail a few days ago. I found it interesting. I wonder if a second referenda were called how many G/C would change their vote. What is everyones view on the contents of this letter?


"Let’s revive the Annan plan

Sir,
I feel betrayed and angry that our tough-talking president said he would veto Turkey if our conditions were not met, but changed his mind at the last minute. In fact he actually supported the beginning of Turkey-EU accession talks. I could not believe I saw him clapping and smiling when Turkey got its date. Bravo sou!P

While Turkey will start talks next year, Cyprus will still be divided, its refugees unable to return to their homes, and our country will remain heavily militarised and under Turkish mainland occupation.

I voted against the Annan plan like most Greek Cypriots on the advice of our tearful president. He painted the impression that once we are firmly in the EU, we could practically force the Turks to accept our demands, securing us a solution we wanted. Why was I so misguided?

More importantly I have learnt one important lesson from the post-referenda events, that it is morally wrong for us Greek Cypriots to try to broker a deal with Ankara, while bypassing our Turkish Cypriot friends. It is an insult to our Turkish Cypriot friends, the people who voted for the reunification of our common country, to reject them.

We co-exist and our destiny is with the Turkish-Cypriots not with Turkey.
Let’s revive the Annan plan and begin talks. Next time we will vote a resounding YES.

Peter Antoniou, Bexley, Kent"[/quotePeter my dest compatriot I would love to meet more people like you, I do not live too far from you . Again I am insisting to claim that the Ortodox Church influence the present president to call for an Oxi vote. We all make mistakes we now need to correct it and you could continue tom express your opinion on the matter. I will certainly do the same. Happy New year to you.

[uzan]

[quote="Alasya"]Below is a letter that was published in the Cyprus mail a few days ago. I found it interesting. I wonder if a second referenda were called how many G/C would change their vote. What is everyones view on the contents of this letter?


"Let’s revive the Annan plan

Sir,
I feel betrayed and angry that our tough-talking president said he would veto Turkey if our conditions were not met, but changed his mind at the last minute. In fact he actually supported the beginning of Turkey-EU accession talks. I could not believe I saw him clapping and smiling when Turkey got its date. Bravo sou!P

While Turkey will start talks next year, Cyprus will still be divided, its refugees unable to return to their homes, and our country will remain heavily militarised and under Turkish mainland occupation.

I voted against the Annan plan like most Greek Cypriots on the advice of our tearful president. He painted the impression that once we are firmly in the EU, we could practically force the Turks to accept our demands, securing us a solution we wanted. Why was I so misguided?

More importantly I have learnt one important lesson from the post-referenda events, that it is morally wrong for us Greek Cypriots to try to broker a deal with Ankara, while bypassing our Turkish Cypriot friends. It is an insult to our Turkish Cypriot friends, the people who voted for the reunification of our common country, to reject them.

We co-exist and our destiny is with the Turkish-Cypriots not with Turkey.
Let’s revive the Annan plan and begin talks. Next time we will vote a resounding YES.

Peter Antoniou, Bexley, Kent"[/quotePeter my dest compatriot I would love to meet more people like you, I do not live too far from you . Again I am insisting to claim that the Ortodox Church influence the present president to call for an Oxi vote. We all make mistakes we now need to correct it and you could continue tom express your opinion on the matter. I will certainly do the same. Happy New year to you.

[Alexandros Lordos]

Uzan, why are you triple-posting ?

[brother]

Maybe there will be more people thinking like that as time goes by and they discover tassos is all talk and no action.

[Piratis]

The first is the sovereignty issue and the partnership state based on two peoples

So partition. Nothing new really. Turks were asking for partition before and after 1960, they achieved partition in 1974, and they are now trying to legalize partition. Perfectly clear.

We will not make them the favor and play their game any longer. We will talk again when the balance of power will change. Until then we will make sure that we are not the only ones who pay the cost of the delay.
The bad policies of Vasiliou-Cleredes were very costly for us. Now with Papadopolos we finally have a leader that will not play the game that Turks want us to play.

[brother]

THATS RIGHT YOU NOW HAVE A TURK HATER IN CHARGE FIGHTING FOR GREEK RIGHTS AND TURKS DEMISE.

[insan]

Quote: Insan
The first is the sovereignty issue and the partnership state based on two peoples

Quote Piratis:
So partition. Nothing new really. Turks were asking for partition before and after 1960, they achieved partition in 1974, and they are now trying to legalize partition. Perfectly clear.

Sorry me Piratis but the little bird brain you have, have made you capable to understand only what a bird is capable to understand. Sovereignity of component states in a multi-ethnic federation and sovereignity of a homogeneous country is totally two different concepts. According to your incapable brain with a soul full of Turkish hatred; any plan which does not give the Hellens full control of Cyprus is partition. Although I didn't expect any better someone like you, I feel necessary to reply your nonesense fro the last time...