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[Pyrpolizer]

So the RoC did not say that the money could not be paid directly to the TRNC then. Please help!

Who is "trnc"? There is no "trnc" by EU terms. The money is already at the disposal of the local EU office, and they are there because RoC pleeded for them to be there, despite the fact that due to British machinations the deadline has passed.

Ask your electricity board when they recieved payment and why they wanted down payment? this time around.

Why should I ask anybody? It is you who said there was an advance payment so you have to prove it. Show me at least one newspaper article saying so. I can show you many that say that the EAC was billing every 10 days and your Electricity man was bringing a cheque within a reasonable period.

You are absoulutely correct you could have refused supply outright but you would of then had a lot of explaining to do especially with EU officials and the UN as it is the "RoC" who claims to represent all Cypriots.

First of all the EU officials are not in a position to know whether we could provide Electricity or not. And certainly they could never force us to cut off electricity from our own people and leave them in the dark to satisfy anyone else. Secondly we could invent 1000 technical excuses to avoid it at least for one weak so that pig heads like yourself understand that in this world it is kind of difficult to be merciful.

Maybe that refusal would have been a good wake up call for our authorities to solve this problem once and for all which is a idsgrace to previous governments but the necessary step are being taken as we chat the 4 turbine reactors have arrived and caused the biggest traffic jam in the north when being transported to Kyrenia.

It might well have been a good wake up for your puppet authority. The question is we the GCs saved you a huge price that you the ordinary TCs would pay. YOU FAIL TO SEE THIS, AND YOU FAIL TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT, and this is called ingratitute.

lets hope for your sakes as well that you will never be put in aposition where you have to help us out and then regret it.

I never said I regret what RoC did this to help the average TC. What I said is that pig heads like you could only understand the magnitute and the importance of this help only in case they were refused, or only in case this supply was delayed by say a week.

NB. Should I remind you of another proposal to help you when Pentadaktylos mountain was burning? Who turned down our help, wasn’t it Denktash? What happened after you turned down our proposal to help you, didn’t the whole area get burned? Was there any money invlolved then? Was there anything for you to lose by accepting our genuine proposal for help?

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Pyrpolizer

Why should I ask anybody? It is you who said there was an advance payment so you have to prove it. Show me at least one newspaper article saying so. I can show you many that say that the EAC was billing every 10 days and your Electricity man was bringing a cheque within a reasonable period.

So now you confirm we paid for what we used, thank you thats what I was trying to establish you were paid for the service.

First of all the EU officials are not in a position to know whether we could provide Electricity or not. And certainly they could never force us to cut off electricity from our own people and leave them in the dark to satisfy anyone else. Secondly we could invent 1000 technical excuses to avoid it at least for one weak so that pig heads like yourself understand that in this world it is kind of difficult to be merciful.

You would still have to face the EU and UN and the anti GC media outcry. Why do you find it necessary to insult me persoanlly by callingme a pig head, do you want me to respond in the same fashion?

It might well have been a good wake up for your puppet authority. The question is we the GCs saved you a huge price that you the ordinary TCs would pay. YOU FAIL TO SEE THIS, AND YOU FAIL TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT, and this is called ingratitute.

I never said I regret what RoC did this to help the average TC. What I said is that pig heads like you could only understand the magnitute and the importance of this help only in case they were refused, or only in case this supply was delayed by say a week.

Please read my previous posts.

NB. Should I remind you of another proposal to help you when Pentadaktylos mountain was burning? Who turned down our help, wasn’t it Denktash? What happened after you turned down our proposal to help you, didn’t the whole area get burned? Was there any money invlolved then? Was there anything for you to lose by accepting our genuine proposal for help?

We are a proud people and never want to be in a position where we have to ask for your help and I believe we did work together on the fire but I may be wrong.

[Pyrpolizer]

So now you confirm we paid for what we used, thank you thats what I was trying to establish you were paid for the service.

Are you trying to divert the discussion ot what. Do you still play damp that you don’t know what the hell we are talking about here? For your information the matter of payment was discussed ages ago. Read and remember:

You did not pay up front, and payment was not the issue.

You would still have to face the EU and UN and the anti GC media outcry.

How? Are they all experts on our own electricity grid? For your information to supply 80 MW from a single point is technically near impossible. By the minute one would try it all the transformers would blow up and the whole of Nicosia would stay in the dark. There is a way to solve this problem as the EAC people did, but nobody would know how to do it and whether the machinery to do it were available at the warehouses. Giving electricity is not so simple like connecting a car battery, especially when we talk of so high power. Like I told you there were a million ways to avoid giving electricity or just give so little to silence everybody that would practically be useless.

Please read my previous posts.

I actually referred to those. Why you avoid answering?

We are a proud people and never want to be in a position where we have to ask for your help and I believe we did work together on the fire but I may be wrong.

For the fire case WE offered help, we did not put you in a possition of begging. For the electricity case you actually begged, so I don’t really see any valid basis for supporting your "proudness". For the fire case Denktash accepted help only from the British bases. Result:Pentadaktylos got burned.

[zan]

For your information to supply 80 MW from a single point is technically near impossible

Why?

[Pyrpolizer]

Because we are talking for an existing grid that is at close proximity to the occupied and that grid could not technically hold so much load.

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Pyrpolizer

Are you trying to divert the discussion ot what. Do you still play damp that you don’t know what the hell we are talking about here? For your information the matter of payment was discussed ages ago. Read and remember:

We paid for a service you so kindly provided, its was not for free that's what I was trying to establish.

Like I told you there were a million ways to avoid giving electricity or just give so little to silence everybody that would practically be useless.

We are used to your normal antics on this occasion you acted more positively due to not only humanitarian reasons for which we are humbly grateful but also the fact of world opinion and the negative backlash from the EU and UN.

I actually referred to those. Why you avoid answering?

Your not reading them properly I did thank the GC people before your outburst.

For the fire case WE offered help, we did not put you in a possition of begging. For the electricity case you actually begged, so I don’t really see any valid basis for supporting your "proudness". For the fire case Denktash accepted help only from the British bases. Result:Pentadaktylos got burned.

Beş Parmak has fully recovered and is looking better than ever but I do seem to remember that the problem of help was due to your people not wanting to cross via crossing points as it would be a sign of recognizing the authorities in the north therefore assistance was channeled through the UN, so your depiction of events is not totally correct. As for proud we are always proud people that probably why we are stubborn but like all people we to have to sometimes accept our shortfalls and not sorting out the electricity problems is a disgrace to all previous TRNC governments as they left us dependent and at the mercy of GCs.

[Pyrpolizer]

Your not reading them properly I did thank the GC people before your outburst.

When, where? Show me.

I do seem to remember that the problem of help was due to your people not wanting to cross via crossing points

What are you talking about? First of all this happened before there were any other crossing points other than Ledra Palace. Secondly Denktash simply rejected the offer as such. So there was no question for issuing our firemen "a visa" for reconising "your authorities"

As for proud we are always proud people that probably why we are stubborn but like all people we to have to sometimes accept our shortfalls and not sorting out the electricity problems is a disgrace to all previous TRNC governments as they left us dependent and at the mercy of GCs.

If you are so proud a people, then you should feel proud enough to pay for the cost of Electricity your "trnc" provides to you through it’s own Electric generators.. Have you seen the article of Sener Levent as to how many of you "proud people" pay their electricity bills? HaVE YOU SEEN THE DECLARATION OF THE UNION OF YOUR OWN Electric utility workers?

[zan]

Your not reading them properly I did thank the GC people before your outburst.

When, where? Show me.

I do seem to remember that the problem of help was due to your people not wanting to cross via crossing points

What are you talking about? First of all this happened before there were any other crossing points other than Ledra Palace. Secondly Denktash simply rejected the offer as such. So there was no question for issuing our firemen "a visa" for reconising "your authorities"

As for proud we are always proud people that probably why we are stubborn but like all people we to have to sometimes accept our shortfalls and not sorting out the electricity problems is a disgrace to all previous TRNC governments as they left us dependent and at the mercy of GCs.

If you are so proud a people, then you should feel proud enough to pay for the cost of Electricity your "trnc" provides to you through it’s own Electric generators.. Have you seen the article of Sener Levent as to how many of you "proud people" pay their electricity bills? HaVE YOU SEEN THE DECLARATION OF THE UNION OF YOUR OWN Electric utility workers?

We will go to church and confess our sins for not paying our electricity bills. Lord forgive us. What a twisted view you have got. We are talking about the right to exist and you come up with paying our bills. Have a look in the south non repentant state and then sart throwing your stones.

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I have to agree with Pyro on this one to a certain extent, they could have refused the supply and then argued the rights and wrongs until the north suffered, so credit where credit is due, the motives may not have been 100% pure but the act itself was a life saver in many ways so we should acknowledge it and be thankful which I and many TCs are. Thank you to the GC people.

There you go my post....Im sure you will still dispute it.

What are you talking about? First of all this happened before there were any other crossing points other than Ledra Palace. Secondly Denktash simply rejected the offer as such. So there was no question for issuing our firemen "a visa" for reconising "your authorities"

Did the GC teams help via the UN? end of story.

If you are so proud a people, then you should feel proud enough to pay for the cost of Electricity your "trnc" provides to you through it’s own Electric generators..Have you seen the article of Sener Levent as to how many of you "proud people" pay their electricity bills?

I pay mine and so do many other law abiding TC citizens, does he mention those?

HaVE YOU SEEN THE DECLARATION OF THE UNION OF YOUR OWN Electric utility workers?

NO

[Pyrpolizer]

There you go my post....Im sure you will still dispute it.

The truth is the truth, why should I dispute it. Of course that was not your intitial response as it should have been but better late than never.

Did the GC teams help via the UN? end of story.

Only for the half of the buffer zone on our side. Not for Pentadaktylos. But anyway if you think they did help this adds another stone to the pack of helps the GCs have given to you with no return whatsoever.

I pay mine and so do many other law abiding TC citizens, does he mention those?

All he says is that too many don’t pay and he gives the total amount of unpaid bills.This questions the existence of equality in the occupied.

NO

Here it is once again:

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The paper writes that the trade union of the workers in the electricity authority (El-Sen) issued a statement arguing that there was no breakdown at the power plant and that the private sector leaves the country in darkness every three days with the excuse of a breakdown.

According to El-Sen, the real reason of the interruptions in the supply of electricity is the lack of fuel.