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[Pyrpolizer]

This is for Zan who asked what did the GC side ever offered the TCs:


http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/tcpr/200 ... pr.html#01

Ferdi Sabit Soyer: Until 1995 we got electricity for free from the Greek Cypriot side


And this is for Educational purposes:

QUOTE:

Turkish Cypriot daily AFRIKA newspaper (24.08.06) refers to the problems with the electricity in the occupied areas of Cyprus and writes that yesterday the three units at occupied Gastria power plant broke down at the same time. As a result of the breakdown the supply of electricity in the whole of the occupied areas was conducted alternately.

The paper writes that the trade union of the workers in the electricity authority (El-Sen) issued a statement arguing that there was no breakdown at the power plant and that the private sector leaves the country in darkness every three days with the excuse of a breakdown.

According to El-Sen, the real reason of the interruptions in the supply of electricity is the lack of fuel.

The paper poses the question to the electricity authority (Kib-Tek) to state who else, besides the municipalities which owe 49 trillion Turkish liras, does not pay his electricity bills. It also asks to be informed how many buildings were constructed after the 24 April referendum and the amount of electricity consumed for them.

Furthermore, according to AFRIKA, Huseyin Ozgurgun, chairman of the National Unity Party (UBP) said that the government does not take any measures in spite of the increase in the constructions and the growing need for electric energy. Mr Ozgurgun called on the government to resign.

The majority of the Turkish Cypriot newspapers cover the issue on their front page.

UNQUOTE


And this is for Viewpoint:

Waiting to see evidence for your alledged down payment.

[zan]

This is for Zan who asked what did the GC side ever offered the TCs:


http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/tcpr/200 ... pr.html#01

Ferdi Sabit Soyer: Until 1995 we got electricity for free from the Greek Cypriot side


And this is for Educational purposes:

QUOTE:

Turkish Cypriot daily AFRIKA newspaper (24.08.06) refers to the problems with the electricity in the occupied areas of Cyprus and writes that yesterday the three units at occupied Gastria power plant broke down at the same time. As a result of the breakdown the supply of electricity in the whole of the occupied areas was conducted alternately.

The paper writes that the trade union of the workers in the electricity authority (El-Sen) issued a statement arguing that there was no breakdown at the power plant and that the private sector leaves the country in darkness every three days with the excuse of a breakdown.

According to El-Sen, the real reason of the interruptions in the supply of electricity is the lack of fuel.

The paper poses the question to the electricity authority (Kib-Tek) to state who else, besides the municipalities which owe 49 trillion Turkish liras, does not pay his electricity bills. It also asks to be informed how many buildings were constructed after the 24 April referendum and the amount of electricity consumed for them.

Furthermore, according to AFRIKA, Huseyin Ozgurgun, chairman of the National Unity Party (UBP) said that the government does not take any measures in spite of the increase in the constructions and the growing need for electric energy. Mr Ozgurgun called on the government to resign.

The majority of the Turkish Cypriot newspapers cover the issue on their front page.

UNQUOTE


And this is for Viewpoint:

Waiting to see evidence for your alledged down payment.

I already gave you the reason as to why this was done and you still say it was out of the kindness of their hearts. Dream on sleepy.


This is for you.


Since the April 2004 referendum on the United Nations Annan Plan, the attitude of the international community towards the TRNC has begun to improve. Günter Verheugen, the EU's Enlargement Commissioner, was reported as saying that the EU was considering opening a representative office in the TRNC. EU foreign ministers agreed to give the TRNC 259 million euros in aid. This aid was blocked by the Greek Cypriot Administration who argued that the Turkish Cypriots wanted to receive this money directly. That is why the southern Republic of Cyprus has blocked it at EU level. The result was for half of the money so far to be lost. A number of high profile formal meetings have also taken place between President Mehmet Ali Talat and various foreign leaders and politicians including US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, British foreign minister Jack Straw, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Re ... ern_Cyprus


Give us our money and we can afford the fuel without Turkeys help.

[Pyrpolizer]

First of all stop quoting articles from wikipidea which might well have been written from any idiot including you. Unless of course you are absolutely sure the articles have been thoroughly worked out and unbiased

Your money? Since when you are entitled to ask for any money from anyone without giving anything in return?
And why should you receive any money at all from the EU? Are you EU members? Do you contribute anything?

Regardless it was YOUR SIDE that rejected the 259 million Euros because it wanted both the money and the direct trade as a whole package. An all or none demand. When you and your Anglo partners realised they are going to lose it all the aid of 259 million Euros has been released.
The EU aid will be used for 18 infrastracture projects, that will be carried out under close supervision from the EU local office.Not a single penny will be given to the so called "trnc administration". Everything is going to be paid directly to the various contractors of the projects.

I already gave you the reason as to why this was done and you still say it was
out of the kindness of their hearts.

You gave this silly reason:

WOW! As much as that. The money comes from the EU and tell me how much have you been refusing to pay to us and keep telling us that you are saving it for us on condition we join the RoC. Even the RoC is not stupid enough to at least make it seem as if they are trying. Something like you are doing in your post.

Which of course was proven invalid like so:

As usual you are out of time and space. Show me the money coming from the EU that we are presumably saving for you. For your information RoC is a nett contributor to the EU.
Money coming and money coming…. Is this the fairy tails they feed you on with at the occupied that we get packs from abroad the same way you get packs from Turkey?

Would you now care coming out of your dreams and talk again?

[zan]

First of all stop quoting articles from wikipidea which might well have been written from any idiot including you. Unless of course you are absolutely sure the articles have been thoroughly worked out and unbiased

Your money? Since when you are entitled to ask for any money from anyone without giving anything in return?
And why should you receive any money at all from the EU? Are you EU members? Do you contribute anything?

Regardless it was YOUR SIDE that rejected the 259 million Euros because it wanted both the money and the direct trade as a whole package. An all or none demand. When you and your Anglo partners realised they are going to lose it all the aid of 259 million Euros has been released.
The EU aid will be used for 18 infrastracture projects, that will be carried out under close supervision from the EU local office.Not a single penny will be given to the so called "trnc administration". Everything is going to be paid directly to the various contractors of the projects.

I already gave you the reason as to why this was done and you still say it was
out of the kindness of their hearts.

You gave this silly reason:

WOW! As much as that. The money comes from the EU and tell me how much have you been refusing to pay to us and keep telling us that you are saving it for us on condition we join the RoC. Even the RoC is not stupid enough to at least make it seem as if they are trying. Something like you are doing in your post.

Which of course was proven invalid like so:

As usual you are out of time and space. Show me the money coming from the EU that we are presumably saving for you. For your information RoC is a nett contributor to the EU.
Money coming and money coming…. Is this the fairy tails they feed you on with at the occupied that we get packs from abroad the same way you get packs from Turkey?

Would you now care coming out of your dreams and talk again?

Not feeling so generous now then


A few posts ago you denied that this money even existed. You also told me not to quote from wiki and then youy defend the reasons for not allowing us the money Come on Pyro, which is to be. We were not allowed the money unless we took an RoC bullet in the head.......great offer.

[Pyrpolizer]

Not feeling so generous now then

I am tired from you hallucinogenic wisperrs.

A few posts ago you denied that this money even existed.

I denied what you said that there is money coming that you are saving blah blah blah. I denied that there is any money coming from the EU for electricity or fuel or anything like that. This is what you said regarding the matter.

The money comes from the EU and tell me how much have you been refusing to pay to us and keep telling us that you are saving it for us on condition we join the RoC.

You also told me not to quote from wiki and then youy defend the reasons for not allowing us the money

I told you not to quote biased wiki documents. In case you find it difficult to spot the distortions of the truth in that wiki article all you have to do is just ask for help. I am here to help you.
May I repeat once again that IT IS YOUR SIDE WHO REJECTED THE MONEY. (Among the many distrortions of that article is the one which says RoC blocked that money. RoC never blocked that money in fact it was RoC who pressed that those money go out immediately as a separate deal).It is your side together with the British who blocked it by threatening that either they get it all (direct trade+money) or NONE. Do you follow the news?

Come on Pyro, which is to be. We were not allowed the money unless we took an RoC bullet in the head.......great offer.

You ALREADY GOT the money.Or better say the money is already at the disposal of the local EU office to pay directly the contractors who will do the 18 projects. Once again do you follow the news, do you know anything about it?

NB. I decided to deal line by line with you post, because the vast majority of your posts is like that. Full of nonsense, that if one decides to take seriously there will be no end in his reply. And then you have the audacity to claim we don’t understand what you are saying, and we are not watching you carefully…

[zan]

So the RoC did not say that the money could not be paid directly to the TRNC then. Please help!

[Viewpoint]

Total rubbish I am aware of how the payments were effected and that the electricity was luckily for us excess supply or otherwise we would have got nothing.

Stop pretending you know everything. There was absolutely no down payment. How could it be? Your man responsible for electricity brought in his payment after the bill was recorded. And there is no excess supply for so many Mega Watts.

You know what? This proves you WILL NEVER appreciate something unless it was FIRST deprived to you. The best thing for Papadopoulos to do should have been to delay the supply for at least one week. He proved stupid enough to provide it within 12 hours. Just to have people like you saying it was nothing.

I never claim to know everything not like some who even know what we are thinking namely Kifeas who tells us whats in our own minds, but hes always wrong.

Ask your electricity board when they recieved payment and why they wanted down payment? this time around.

You are absoulutely correct you could have refused supply outright but you would of then had a lot of explaining to do especially with EU officials and the UN as it is the "RoC" who claims to represent all Cypriots. Maybe that refusal would have been a good wake up call for our authorities to solve this problem once and for all which is a idsgrace to previous governments but the necessary step are being taken as we chat the 4 turbine reactors have arrived and caused the biggest traffic jam in the north when being transported to Kyrenia. Just one more step towards self sufficency lets hope for your sakes as well that you will never be put in aposition where you have to help us out and then regret it.

[zan]

Total rubbish I am aware of how the payments were effected and that the electricity was luckily for us excess supply or otherwise we would have got nothing.

Stop pretending you know everything. There was absolutely no down payment. How could it be? Your man responsible for electricity brought in his payment after the bill was recorded. And there is no excess supply for so many Mega Watts.

You know what? This proves you WILL NEVER appreciate something unless it was FIRST deprived to you. The best thing for Papadopoulos to do should have been to delay the supply for at least one week. He proved stupid enough to provide it within 12 hours. Just to have people like you saying it was nothing.

I never claim to know everything not like some who even know what we are thinking namely Kifeas who tells us whats in our own minds, but hes always wrong.

Ask your electricity board when they recieved payment and why they wanted down payment? this time around.

You are absoulutely correct you could have refused supply outright but you would of then had a lot of explaining to do especially with EU officials and the UN as it is the "RoC" who claims to represent all Cypriots. Maybe that refusal would have been a good wake up call for our authorities to solve this problem once and for all which is a idsgrace to previous governments but the necessary step are being taken as we chat the 4 turbine reactors have arrived and caused the biggest traffic jam in the north when being transported to Kyrenia. Just one more step towards self sufficency lets hope for your sakes as well that you will never be put in aposition where you have to help us out and then regret it.

Unbelievable isnt it VP. I give a list of what Turkey has done for us and he comes up with a months supply of electricity after years of embargoes.

[Viewpoint]

I have to agree with Pyro on this one to a certain extent, they could have refused the supply and then argued the rights and wrongs until the north suffered, so credit where credit is due, the motives may not have been 100% pure but the act itself was a life saver in many ways so we should acknowledge it and be thankful which I and many TCs are. Thank you to the GC people.

[zan]

I have to agree with Pyro on this one to a certain extent, they could have refused the supply and then argued the rights and wrongs until the north suffered, so credit where credit is due, the motives may not have been 100% pure but the act itself was a life saver in many ways so we should acknowledge it and be thankful which I and many TCs are. Thank you to the GC people.

I stand corrected on this VP and thank you for putting me right. I did not have to go through it so if you say it was a life saver then that is what it was.