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[shahmaran]

Indeed, this is why i do not beleive that their mentality has changed a bit since before 74, and its the very same reason i rather continue as we are now...might sound a little poetic but no matter how bad the situation is, people usually find a way to go on, life always prevails. United Cyprus would make me a lot more comfortable, which i can do without.

[Viewpoint]

I agree totally when you take into account that in a united Cyprus people like Piratis, Kifeas, Sotos and Pyro will have a stake in your future and decide important issues on your behalf. The thought is frightening, better to stay as we are.

[shahmaran]

Oh my god not SOTOS!

[Pyrpolizer]

They feel it will make us want a solution.

We know we will never make people like you want a solution per se.

What it seems to be the official policy right now is to increase the consequences against those who support the illegal state and reward those who don’t. Direct flights to Larnaca will soon be a fact. TC bussiness people who will profit from that will soon be a fact. 6000 TCs working in the free areas without enjoying the full benefits of their work are already a fact. TC Europeans who don’t enjoy the full benefits of Europe are already a fact. TC producers who sell their products in the free areas are already a fact.
TC people having thick, solid accounts and visa cards in Cyprus Pounds at Bank of Cyprus and Cyprus Popular Bank are already a fact. TC taxi drivers taking tourists and TC travellers to Larnaca Airport without beeing allowed to do the reverse are already a fact.
Guess what will happen in the end to those of you who don’t want a solution. Guess what will happen to you when you will see your next door TC neighbour getting richer and richer without you knowing why.

It’s already happening VP open your eyes and see.

[Pyrpolizer]

Yeah, yeah VP play the frightened chicken of the forum.

I wonder how many times have you tried this silly game? People like "kifeas, Piratis, Sotos, Pyrpolizer, my God frightening"

Hey VP don't play me the frigfhtened chicken. P



Play it to idiots who believe you.

[shahmaran]

its not fear but more of a worrie and skepticism...

its kind of hard to trust people who tried to exterminate you once, and still push their weird and unclear utopian intentions by politically suffocating 250,000 or so ppl, doesnt seem like you have learned anything from the past.

[zan]

I am still waiting for Zan to agree with you Viewpoint.

I don’t know if you really can’t see the wood for the trees or you are just looking the other way ?????


The questions you are asking are separate and also linked but not as you are portraying them. VP came to this forum trying to talk to you people and trying to put his point across about our concerns. He did not want partition at first but with yours and others intransigence he has come to the conclusion that partition will after all be the BEST option considering all the facts. I had already come to that conclusion long before him so in that respect we are in agreement. You seem to forget that I to have said that if all things are equal and all this hatred is gone we will then be able to sit down and talk. I have also said that we should not stop talking while we are working towards this goal. These views are no different to VPs. We cannot see unification as a viable option with the present situation ergo partition is the answer. I cannot see your trouble in understanding this simple to use idea. VP has the greater stamina out of the two of us and is still trying to persuade you guys to see sense and give us the things that we need to help us get to a point where it is possible to talk as equals. I am demanding it. If you want to see this as the point where we differ in our opinion then that is your prerogative but it is wrong.


As for that other ridiculous argument that we should support Tpap in the embargoes because it is the way to unification then I suggest the author transfer that idea to the thread I opened on Monty python. It can be transferred in its present form without editing and is even funnier than my script, for it is asking us to starve our selves into submission. How funny is that…..

[Pyrpolizer]

its not fear but more of a worrie and skepticism...

its kind of hard to trust people who tried to exterminate you once, and still push their weird and unclear utopian intentions by politically suffocating 250,000 or so ppl, doesnt seem like you have learned anything from the past.

Playing the frghtened chicken is not fear, nor skeptcism. Is a well calculated trick that is proven to work on TCs.

The Tcs were 120,000 before 1974. Now they became 250,000 because of the settlers.
If it is hard for TCs to trust us for what happened to them in the past, then imagine how much harder it is for us to trust them for what happened to us multi-fold in the past.

VP came to this forum trying to talk to you people and trying to put his point across about our concerns. He did not want partition at first but with yours and others intransigence he has come to the conclusion that partition will after all be the BEST option considering all the facts.

Oh really? Did you ask VP and told you this is how and why he came in this forum? FYI I did ask many times and told me he came here because he wanted to challenge his already firm stance for partition. So far he said, not only he did not change his original stance, he reinforced it. So get your facts straight man.

As for the matter of talking as equals my first term is give us our properties and lands unconditionally, we give you yours unconditionally and then we talk about anything you want.

As for that other ridiculous argument that we should support Tpap in the embargoes because it is the way to unification then I suggest the author transfer that idea to the thread I opened on Monty python. It can be transferred in its present form without editing and is even funnier than my script, for it is asking us to starve our selves into submission. How funny is that…..

Are you dreaming or what? Where did you see that you should support anything. Do whatever you want. All I did was just showing you what is already happening around you. If you think that which is already happening is support to the Embargos then go complain to that company in UK who will be doing direct flights at Larnaca.Go beat the 6000 TC workers who cross each day to the free areas for work.

[zan]

its not fear but more of a worrie and skepticism...

its kind of hard to trust people who tried to exterminate you once, and still push their weird and unclear utopian intentions by politically suffocating 250,000 or so ppl, doesnt seem like you have learned anything from the past.

Playing the frghtened chicken is not fear, nor skeptcism. Is a well calculated trick that is proven to work on TCs.

The Tcs were 120,000 before 1974. Now they became 250,000 because of the settlers.
If it is hard for TCs to trust us for what happened to them in the past, then imagine how much harder it is for us to trust them for what happened to us multi-fold in the past.

VP came to this forum trying to talk to you people and trying to put his point across about our concerns. He did not want partition at first but with yours and others intransigence he has come to the conclusion that partition will after all be the BEST option considering all the facts.

Oh really? Did you ask VP and told you this is how and why he came in this forum? FYI I did ask many times and told me he came here because he wanted to challenge his already firm stance for partition. So far he said, not only he did not change his original stance, he reinforced it. So get your facts straight man.

As for the matter of talking as equals my first term is give us our properties and lands unconditionally, we give you yours unconditionally and then we talk about anything you want.

As for that other ridiculous argument that we should support Tpap in the embargoes because it is the way to unification then I suggest the author transfer that idea to the thread I opened on Monty python. It can be transferred in its present form without editing and is even funnier than my script, for it is asking us to starve our selves into submission. How funny is that…..

Are you dreaming or what? Where did you see that you should support anything. Do whatever you want. All I did was just showing you what is already happening around you. If you think that which is already happening is support to the Embargos then go complain to that company in UK who will be doing direct flights at Larnaca.Go beat the 6000 TC workers who cross each day to the free areas for work.

I am sorry but this is not the guy that I have been talking to in the past. The wording in this does not make sense to me. I am not messing about here. I cannot understand what you are saying.


Well, maybe just a little of it.


All I saw in VPs posts was a conversation trying to convince you guys that his concerns were real and that if you were to take them as being so then the talking can begin in earnest. He may have said what you wrote but I did not see that post. Whether he came here to challenge his views or had already made up his mind is of no real importance because he has now reached a conclusion. I do wish you would stop playing the GC detective because you are no good at it. Your Columbo way of summing up an event is way off mark.

[Kifeas]

its kind of hard to trust people who tried to exterminate you once,

Who has "tried to exterminate you once," Shahmaran? When? where? How?

and still push their weird and unclear utopian intentions by politically suffocating 250,000 or so ppl,

Who are the 250,000 or so ppl that are politically suffocated?

doesnt seem like you have learned anything from the past.

Who is supposed to have learned from the past, and what?