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[miltiades]

I'm concerned that Zan as well as VP have accused me of bigotry and of contact that is utterly repugnant to all that I stand for. In particular the comments made by Zan in response to the following post I made , in fact one of many that I praised the Cypriot identity and proclaimed that one of my wishes was to see a T/C as President of Cyprus representing Cyprus and all Cypriots. I'm committed to my birth country being independent of Turkey and Greece and have often reprimanded those that want Turkey or Greece as their motherland to do the decent thing and piss off to their respective promised lands. This is what I posted :

"""Don't know why these Turkish zealots dont go back where they came from. I mean , Cyprus is after all a separate nation with its own persona. The Greeks piss off to Greece and the Turks fuck off to Turkey. That's fair I think. """

And this is Zan's interpretation and accusation against my person , I'm offended and Zan should do the honourable thing and withdraw his comments and offer his apology.


"""""And men with beards and puffs and anyone that you don't like. Don't face reality and it will bite you on the ass. Turn around militiades and look at me in the face. I want to move on with the least disruption. It is you that wants to put us on trains and ship us off to the gas chambers. You are turning into the biggest bigot here. What is going on?""""

ps. still dont like beards.

[zan]

The comments I made were about the culmination of your views all over this forum. Your aged views from gays to the Far East and beards are those of an outspoken bigot. You have applauded the use of force against civilians in Iraq without any guilt. You even stated that they should all be killed and used my least favourite word of barbarian. You have used this forum as your soap box to lambaste any thing that you do not like but with aggressive and unacceptable terms and language for a person that is not a bigot, ergo a bigot. Just look back over your posts and maybe show some regret for your extreme views and I will retract my opinion of you.

[miltiades]

ZAN WROTE:
""Your aged views from gays to the Far East and beards are those of an outspoken bigot. You have applauded the use of force against civilians in Iraq without any guilt. You even stated that they should all be killed and used my least favourite word of barbarian. You have used this forum as your soap box to lambaste any thing that you do not like but with aggressive and unacceptable terms and language for a person that is not a bigot, ergo a bigot. Just look back over your posts and maybe show some regret for your extreme views and I will retract my opinion of you."""

Zan let us start with gay issue. Can you point me to my comments that you found objectionable.
As far as applauding force against civilians in Iraq , and that they should all be killed , which of my posts ??
Beards , yes I dislike beards so what.
And finally which of my posts do you find objectionable , the ones you disagree with no doubt.
Put up or shut up.

[zan]

Views of a well balanced and fair man? More to come.


Eliko , thanks for the compliments , in my world , the Western world , you are entitled to freely express your views regardless of how immature and stupid they might be. The West spends billions on defence in order to ensure that even the insignificant amongst us are able to have and express opinions. Your world would have me executed for daring to question even the most absurd theories .You are indeed a lucky individual and also blessed with reasonable command of the English language , a possession that you endeavour to parade in most of your posts .May I suggest that you take a well earned vacation in Kabul where you will have the opportunity to personally offer your esteemed congratulations to the Taliban , you may even join them for a spell of shooting practice with British and American troops as targets .


Our country VP , our Cyprus , not a tin pot illegal Turkish protectorate . You own Cyprus just as I do .
Look around at the foreign settlers in Kyrenia and tell me they are your people.


Eliko , you are spot on !! First class garbage as usual.What the fuck do they have that we want stupid !

""The Afghanistan's do have something which would be an enhancement to many other nations, 'COURAGE', they have taken on the might of super powers and are giving them a good run for their money"""


ELIKO , I'm a 60 year old male , a father of two and a grandfather of one ,that has been married to one lady since 1967 . Why on earth would I want to suck my thump you stupid uneducated moron. May I suggest that you go and play your self you are obviously a frustrated individual , ugly no doubt , with absolutely no life , skinned and certainly the proud owner of a f.ng beard. Military action I have not seen but idiots like you I have chewed and spat out more times that you have had a shave. Now put that in your pipe moron and smoke it.


Kikapu , why do all Afghans , and I mean all of them have beards , are razor blades banned or what.


G.Man , why do you post the link to Times , I posted this link last Sunday when it first appeared. The interpretation of this DEMAGOGUES speech is well known and has never been refuted by Iran , or any of its foreign ambassadors . He clearly and concisely said "Israel must be wiped pf the face of the earth". Cut the crap out about oil revenues and money. You are a well travelled man , it appears , but wholly inadequately equipped in the field of International affairs. Israel has made her plans public to achieve one thing. Put the fear of God into Iran and get them to accept UN resolutions and abandon the Nuclear Road that would lead to its demise and push the country back a hundred years. No one is advocating that the use of Nuclear weapons is acceptable and neither is anyone responsible has your attitude " what do I care if Iran has Nuclear weapons".The West has to look after our interests and preserve our way of life , our laws our culture , Iran is not trusted to posses such devastatingly vicious weapons. And it wont.

[GorillaGal]

i have never seen miltiades as any kind of a biggot. there are other people on this forum who are biggots, but miltiades is not one of them.

[zan]

i have never seen miltiades as any kind of a biggot. there are other people on this forum who are biggots, but miltiades is not one of them.

I am not in the business of trying to change your mind GG and I did not start this thread. This was between me and militiades and it should have been left there. If he wants to let this thread die then I will let it.

[GorillaGal]

oh sorry, i didn't know it was a zan/miltiades only thread. maybe it was meant to be PM's?

[zan]

oh sorry, i didn't know it was a zan/miltiades only thread. maybe it was meant to be PM's?

Thats not what I meant. I was talking about the arguement and yes it should have been done as a PM.

[andri_cy]

I have to admit I have the utmost respect for Miltiades for some of his views. The ones that Zan has highlighted(and I did see them before Zan highlighted them) DID leave me a bit confused and wondering if there are 2 Miltiades' typing about.

[miltiades]

Zan , where are my postings on gays and my applause on Iraqi civilians murders , what I posted below I stand by every word "" And also please tell me when I suggested the Gas chambers. You are interpreting my posts to suit your own propaganda. Have you posted anything constructive on the Cyprob. NO . Instead you post an Israeli's document showing that only 20000 , that's twenty thousand , G/C became refugees as a result of the Turkish invasion !!! The rest apparently were self inflicted refugees. !! I love Cyprus and all my fellow countrymen and do not wish to see my country permanently divided.
It appears you seem to rather enjoy my prejudices , let me just give you a few more.
Body pearcing drives me up the wall more so when a bloody nail is protruding from someones lip or nose.
So here you have it , I hate beards and body piercing.


"""Eliko , thanks for the compliments , in my world , the Western world , you are entitled to freely express your views regardless of how immature and stupid they might be. The West spends billions on defence in order to ensure that even the insignificant amongst us are able to have and express opinions. Your world would have me executed for daring to question even the most absurd theories .You are indeed a lucky individual and also blessed with reasonable command of the English language , a possession that you endeavour to parade in most of your posts .May I suggest that you take a well earned vacation in Kabul where you will have the opportunity to personally offer your esteemed congratulations to the Taliban , you may even join them for a spell of shooting practice with British and American troops as targets . ""


"""Our country VP , our Cyprus , not a tin pot illegal Turkish protectorate . You own Cyprus just as I do .
Look around at the foreign settlers in Kyrenia and tell me they are your people. ""


""Eliko , you are spot on !! First class garbage as usual.What the fuck do they have that we want stupid ! ""
ELIKO WROTE :
""The Afghanistan's do have something which would be an enhancement to many other nations, 'COURAGE', they have taken on the might of super powers and are giving them a good run for their money"""


ELIKO , I'm a 60 year old male , a father of two and a grandfather of one ,that has been married to one lady since 1967 . Why on earth would I want to suck my thump you stupid uneducated moron. May I suggest that you go and play your self you are obviously a frustrated individual , ugly no doubt , with absolutely no life , skinned and certainly the proud owner of a f.ng beard. Military action I have not seen but idiots like you I have chewed and spat out more times that you have had a shave. Now put that in your pipe moron and smoke it. """


""Kikapu , why do all Afghans , and I mean all of them have beards , are razor blades banned or what. ""


G.Man , why do you post the link to Times , I posted this link last Sunday when it first appeared. The interpretation of this DEMAGOGUES speech is well known and has never been refuted by Iran , or any of its foreign ambassadors . He clearly and concisely said "Israel must be wiped pf the face of the earth". Cut the crap out about oil revenues and money. You are a well travelled man , it appears , but wholly inadequately equipped in the field of International affairs. Israel has made her plans public to achieve one thing. Put the fear of God into Iran and get them to accept UN resolutions and abandon the Nuclear Road that would lead to its demise and push the country back a hundred years. No one is advocating that the use of Nuclear weapons is acceptable and neither is anyone responsible has your attitude " what do I care if Iran has Nuclear weapons".The West has to look after our interests and preserve our way of life , our laws our culture , Iran is not trusted to posses such devastatingly vicious weapons. And it wont.