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[andri_cy]

we already said the song would be half Greek and half Turkish with a TC singer.

My post was an answer to VP talking about a TC singer singing a song only in Turkish. So that was not the assumption you made with the song being half and half.

[Pyrpolizer]

I have support for both refugees and the settlers. The difference is what problems each one will cause to the Cyprus problem. I have stated many times the dangers of what the RoC wants in the unconditional or even the conditional return of the refugees. The disruption and chaos that will send Cyprus into a downward spiral, both monetarily and mentally.

I think I do not have to dwell on the problems and disruption that the expelling of the settlers on both sides will bring to all concerned.

You seem to confuse the right to return with the actual return. The right to return is there nobody can take it away, the question is, return where when nobody can force anyone in the streets? Sorry you are only thinking emotionally thinking that in a state of law, there will be martial type actions. In a state of law everybody has rights and obligations including both the settlers and the GC refugees. In a martial type of law only one of the two has rights. So I don’t think that the right of return will cause any real problems whatsoever.

I agree any solution will bring some kind of unrest. I don’t agree it will bring a chaos. For you there is only one option: Leave the situation as it is, to avoid this initial unrest. Do not disturb the waters because you are sure we are going to have a tsunami….

All I can conclude from what you say is that you will not bar any excuse-no matter how near to impossible that excuse is for happening- in your effort to help the Turkish side (TCs+Turkey+settlers) keep what they grapped through the 1974 invasion.

As far as your poem is concerned, yes I believe you are really a talented person. I ‘ve seen other writtings of yours in this forum and noted your charismas. I respect you for those. I am happy to discover a respectable side to every person I spend my time with.

What if everything stays the same which is the most likely scenario.

The Soviet Union stayed the same for so many years and that was the most likely scenario i.e to stay the same up until one month before it collapsed. The RoC stayed the same up until 1 day before the coup.
So VP in todays world the most likely scenario is that nothing stays the same for ever.

As for the Eurovision song contest all you have to do if you REALLY want a Turkish song represent a United Cyprus there, is just make as many calls to the voting center as possible. You have to promise however that you will not come back from Eurovision crying and telling everyone what a ridiculous competition the Eurovision was. Promise?

[Pyrpolizer]

Since we stuck on Eurovision contest:
Do you think the regime in the occupied will allow a TC represent Cyprus to Eurovision? And what will it happen if the last minute that person is prevented from going to Eurovision?

Besides as you know each song is promoted commercially together with tourist scenes and a film. What if the TC winner demands that all that is filmed at the occupied. What if he starts giving interviews abroad for "north Cyprus" and all that stuff? What if he keeps on telling I come from "Turkish Cyprus"? What if some GCs start "promoting" the place he lives i.e on stolen GC property?

I think it is naive to even think of a TC living in the occupied representing Cyprus to Eurovision. This cannot happen until there is a United Cyprus.

[Viewpoint]

Since we stuck on Eurovision contest:
Do you think the regime in the occupied will allow a TC represent Cyprus to Eurovision? And what will it happen if the last minute that person is prevented from going to Eurovision?

Besides as you know each song is promoted commercially together with tourist scenes and a film. What if the TC winner demands that all that is filmed at the occupied. What if he starts giving interviews abroad for "north Cyprus" and all that stuff? What if he keeps on telling I come from "Turkish Cyprus"? What if some GCs start "promoting" the place he lives i.e on stolen GC property?

I think it is naive to even think of a TC living in the occupied representing Cyprus to Eurovision. This cannot happen until there is a United Cyprus.

Nothing changes the normal barrage of GC excuses for keeping us out, ho all for the sake of wanting solution of course.

[Viewpoint]

Pyrpolizer

The Soviet Union stayed the same for so many years and that was the most likely scenario i.e to stay the same up until one month before it collapsed. The RoC stayed the same up until 1 day before the coup.
So VP in todays world the most likely scenario is that nothing stays the same for ever.

Well let me put it this way it wont be in your life time so nothing to worry about, we are paying for the mistakes of our ancestors and the generations to come will have to pay for ours, thats the way the cookie crumbles.

As for the Eurovision song contest all you have to do if you REALLY want a Turkish song represent a United Cyprus there, is just make as many calls to the voting center as possible. You have to promise however that you will not come back from Eurovision crying and telling everyone what a ridiculous competition the Eurovision was. Promise?

We know we will never compete under your flag this would need a miracle as GCs are ingenious enough to create a million and 1 reason why we should not plus the voting ratio will never favor us, this is what we would have if a TC competed in the south today and even in a united Cyprus. So this idea is a total non starter. We can only hope that one day we will be allowed to compete as the TRNC...who knows nothing stays the same as you pointed out yourself.

[DT.]

Pyrpolizer

The Soviet Union stayed the same for so many years and that was the most likely scenario i.e to stay the same up until one month before it collapsed. The RoC stayed the same up until 1 day before the coup.
So VP in todays world the most likely scenario is that nothing stays the same for ever.

Well let me put it this way it wont be in your life time so nothing to worry about, we are paying for the mistakes of our ancestors and the generations to come will have to pay for ours, thats the way the cookie crumbles.

As for the Eurovision song contest all you have to do if you REALLY want a Turkish song represent a United Cyprus there, is just make as many calls to the voting center as possible. You have to promise however that you will not come back from Eurovision crying and telling everyone what a ridiculous competition the Eurovision was. Promise?

We know we will never compete under your flag this would need a miracle as GCs are ingenious enough to create a million and 1 reason why we should not plus the voting ratio will never favor us, this is what we would have if a TC competed in the south today and even in a united Cyprus. So this idea is a total non starter. We can only hope that one day we will be allowed to compete as the TRNC...who knows nothing stays the same as you pointed out yourself.

TC singer with a turkish/greek song. I'd vote a few hundred times if you like. You can all come round my place and start calling from my house if you like ( I will off course be charging the tariff with a small margin for the sandwiches and beers...and maybe a weekend at the meridien)

[G.Man]

If you want a song to do well in Eurovision, make it in english about re-uniting cyprus for cypriots...

A. Because then MORE people will understand the lyrics
B. More people will support the sentiment
C. The fact that Cyprus puts it in Eurovision will show they want a solution

[andri_cy]

I agree with G.Man

[zan]

Neither side is going to let any of this happen and the point has been missed. The whole point about the GC participating in the protests will speak more volumes than allowing one TC to sing a song in any form you like in a contest that brings about rubbish songs. The Eurovision song contest is a complete waste of time and money because it does not represent the real music that is being listened to by real youngsters. I cannot sit through that embarrassing display of bad music from all over the world. The main thing is the protest.

[Pyrpolizer]

Nothing changes the normal barrage of GC excuses for keeping us out, ho all for the sake of wanting solution of course.

Tell me what happened to the TC football player who joined the Larnaca team.