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[miltiades]

GG I think your call for support is aimed at the wrong man in Miltiades case. He more typifies the stereotypical American than any American ever could. He wants to kill every Iraqi and if they have a beard he wants to wake them up and kill them again.

Here you go again , usual rubbish , kill every Iraqi ? attributing distasteful statements is very much apart of your overall performance on this forum , as for beards , you fool I said TAX beards based on the texture and length. Made a joke about sending my local priest a gift of razor blades, have you no sense of humour or are you a one sided brain thinking man.
As far as America is concerned , if green visas were distributed free in Turkey , the population of your New Modern world would in a year match that of Cyprus.

[zan]

GG I think your call for support is aimed at the wrong man in Miltiades case. He more typifies the stereotypical American than any American ever could. He wants to kill every Iraqi and if they have a beard he wants to wake them up and kill them again.

Here you go again , usual rubbish , kill every Iraqi ? attributing distasteful statements is very much apart of your overall performance on this forum , as for beards , you fool I said TAX beards based on the texture and length. Made a joke about sending my local priest a gift of razor blades, have you no sense of humour or are you a one sided brain thinking man.
As far as America is concerned , if green visas were distributed free in Turkey , the population of your New Modern world would in a year match that of Cyprus.

I have to congratulate you on finally mastering the art of quotes. Lesson two:

When a person writes on a forum and puts those "emoticons" on they are to portray a certain "emotion". If you hold your cursor of the emoticons to the left a caption will open telling you what each one indicates. For instance the ones I used in my post show me laughing. Now that could mean that I am laughing at you or with you. They could also mean that I am laughing at what you said or even what I said. They could mean joy and they could mean a piss take. They could also mean that what I wrote should not be taken TOO seriously. You work it out.

[GorillaGal]

GG I think your call for support is aimed at the wrong man in Miltiades case. He more typifies the stereotypical American than any American ever could. He wants to kill every Iraqi and if they have a beard he wants to wake them up and kill them again.

Zan,
i think militades is a smart individual, not afraid to speak his mind. shoot, he hates people with piercings, and i have a pierced nose! i never took his comments about beards very seriously. it would be a little hard to tax people on facial hair length, now wouldn't it?
as for the whole iraq situation, i stand by my recent postings that i am not for the war, nor are most new yorkers (and americans--but i feel the new yorker thing is important since we got the brunt of the 9-11 attacks, we should have had a bigger say in what to do about it--and attacking iraq would not have been an option). however, the USA pretty much maintains that the "war is over", which it basically is. we are moreso therre presently to help them rebuild a better society. and anything is better than the rule they had with saddam in office.
yesterday i read how car bombs and suicide bombers killed 88 in iraq. none of that was aimed at americans. that was iraqis attacking each other. so we NEED to be there right now to help them rebuild, to train a police force, to help keep the peace. the war is over. we are not bombing places on a daily basis. we are trying to set up a more peaceful, a more humane and equal society. is that so wrong? i have heard comments about our own "wild west" here in the USA. it's not like that anymore here. and that is what we want for iraq. we want the citizens there to have a say in thier government. we want the people to not be so afraid to go out to thier markets, or to celibrate weddings without worrying about some idiot with bombs strapped to them committing suicide and bringing dozens of other innocent people with them. is that so wrong?
and i know this posting is going to draw comments about the financial gain and how it is all about money. it's not all about money, and yes, no doubt a part of it is about financial gains. but once again i maintain: what's so wrong about that? no government is innocent for not looking out for their own interests. not even cyprus.
Goddess bless the USA, and God bless Cyprus!

[shahmaran]

my god! USA presence in the area has caused the deaths of a LOT more people since they actually stopped bombing wrong targerts! soon they would have matched Saddams death tall, if they havent already. i believe the last independent estimate of body count due to the "consequences of the invasion" was 600,000 people!!!!

So excuse the world for failing to see the good will (!!) in the actions of the US!

Yes, every country has to look out for their interests, but only Americas intenterests always seem to have such bloody consequences and they are already threatening more countries. What the hell does USA know about nation building!

And to be honest its even more saddening to see people portray horrendeous actions in such pieces of text that shows and calls for some compassion towards the USA for what they are doing.

"but but we want people to be able to go to their markets" its just ridiculous!

Im sorry GG but i comleatly dissaggree with everything you have said.

Specially the ones about Miltiades

[GorillaGal]

What the hell does USA know about nation building!

we seem to know a hell of alot, since in a short 200+ years, we built ourselves a pretty damn strong nation.

[shahmaran]

What the hell does USA know about nation building!

we seem to know a hell of alot, since in a short 200+ years, we built ourselves a pretty damn strong nation.

oh right that was it i am sorry.

...except the people who built that lovely nation were not Americans, and the nation you are trying to rebuild is Iraq!

lots of the Iraqis are starting to say that they hadnt seen so much violence even under Saddams regime, dont you think you have already failed miserably and its time to pack it up?

[Eliko]

Hey GorillaGal !, sorry to butt in again but I feel I must make some observations in response to your latest contribution to this discussion.
The attack on Iraq does not deserve the distinction of being viewed as a 'War', it was a cowardly demonstration of air supremecy which inflicted maximum suffering on innocent civilians 6 miles below the safe altitude of the bombers.
The subsequent 'Ground Offensive' did not produce the results expected, since the people of that nation and others, recognised the evil intent of their attackers and fought back in the only way possible for them when faced with such a demonic force, they now rely on the power of their faith to deliver them from the clutches of their foe.
The daily sacrifices we now see are a result of the inability of the superior powers to subjugate the people of Iraq by force of arms, so they have now set one internal faction against the other, they will now adopt the role of the 'overseer' in the conflict they have created, taking the side of whichever one looks like gaining superiority.
That is the way your nation came into being in the first instance, there is no justification for what they have done.
The 'War' in Iraq has not started yet, there is still a little more damage to inflict on the people before your troops will be withdrawn (defeated), leaving the world to observe the outcome of your nations interference with a culture far superior to your own.

[shahmaran]

very well put Eliko...

[GorillaGal]

First, we are only trying to make iraq a better place for thier people. is it so bad that we want the people themselves to have a say in thier governmant? that they should not live in fear and whisper about thier unhappiness for fear of saddams people coming in to kill and torture them? is it wrong to help thier women be treated more as equals and not as property or second class citizens? it is not as if we are trying to take thier religious beliefs from them. and if thier religious beliefs dictate that women should not be allowed to read and write, or vote, then it is time thye come out of thier "wild west" mode and realize this is a new millenium.
the iraqi's say they did not see violence under saddam's rule???? HARD TO BELIEVE! they lived in fear, and no one should live that way!
all way is viewed as EVIL to someone, Eliko. and the deaths incurred are unfortunate. but it is all for the better of the people, and history will write that chapter decades from now. who is to say what that chapter will say, but i have a feeling it is all for the betterment of the iraqi people.
the war in iraq is over.
we are helping them rebuild.

[miltiades]

[quote="Eliko"]
The daily sacrifices we now see are a result of the inability of the superior powers to subjugate the people of Iraq by force of arms, so they have now set one internal faction against the other, they will now adopt the role of the 'overseer' in the conflict they have created, taking the side of whichever one looks like gaining superiority.
/quote]
You are surely not suggesting that the daily murders committed by one fraction of Iraqis against the other are "sacrifices "
I'm flabbergasted to see such absurd phraesology by a person that appears on the surface to have had a certain level of education.
Your interpretation of the savage killings in markets , in busy shopping centres , at places of worship, leaves me stunned .