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[Pyrpolizer]

Well I believe Miltiades has a point in that we have to side by the strong and influencial of this world and these are certainly the Anglo-Americans. The problem for us is that Turkey too sides by them. We already know that such a monolithic policy will lead us to catastrophy. Because when it comes to vital matters the Anglo-Americans would side by Turkey. They already did it, they are still doing it.

What I totally disagree is that aligning with them should also mean applauding everything they do. Applauses don’t serve any purpose. Especially for such things like the Iraq war. Our support to them should be limited to the point we don’t become their "direct" enemy

Modern day policy is a multible board game. We should side by many. On one occasion the Americans will help us, on another the Russians, on another the EU, and so on.

Remember: Who saved us from Coffee-Ananas revenge proposal to the security council after we rejected his monstrosity? Was it the Americans?

[miltiades]

HA HA WROTE :

""""nice finger by the way i think i can see particules of crust and viginal residue from your mamma, i know coz i got some too....

Hey moron, shut the fuck up, you damn idiot. """

Eliko I'm certain that you will find the above post by your young hero as appropriate of an intelligent and cultured individual that you so much admire and advice him to ignore ignorant people like my self.
You are persistent in referring me to a link posted by humanist and demanding my comments. It is my prerogative just as much as it is yours to refuse to disassociate my self from something with which I have never been associated with.

[Pyrpolizer]

Hey Miltiades, you too let the boy go pee.

[miltiades]

Pyrpolizer wrote:

""Well I believe Miltiades has a point in that we have to side by the strong and influencial of this world and these are certainly the Anglo-Americans. The problem for us is that Turkey too sides by them. We already know that such a monolithic policy will lead us to catastrophy. Because when it comes to vital matters the Anglo-Americans would side by Turkey. They already did it, they are still doing it. """

But I'm certain you agree that it is diplomatically astute not to make enemies with the powerful of this world, namely America, China , Russia, Brittain etc. It is understandable that Turkey is by far most strategically important to the USA than little old Cyprus , and that is where a skillful Diplomat rises to the challenge. ANTAGONISING a giant while we at the same time want the giant to help is not at all diplomacy. You do agree , dont you that if America recognises Northern Cyprus that will be the END.

[Pyrpolizer]

Absolutely Miltiades.

[Pyrpolizer]

Where from is that dirty smell coming Miltiades? I am gonna vomit, shit what happened?

[zan]

I can’t believe that you two can discuss openly the best way to do the wrong things. Have you no morals?

What the USA did in Iraq is without doubt morally wrong. What they did in terms of their own interests is another matter.

The first thing they did was try to control the price of oil and it was reported at the time of the Kuwait problem that the oil field that ran between Iraq and Kuwait was to become a third of the worlds supply within 5 to 10 years. America tried to limit the amount of oil that Iraq was pumping out of ground so that the price of oil would not drop. Iraq needed money quickly and did the exact opposite and basically pissed the yanks off. Saddam then used the threat that he did in fact have WMDs to invade Kuwait and take control of the whole oil field. This then set the west off on defending its own interests because if Saddam could manage to hold on to this field he would literally be able to blackmail the west and play games with the price of oil. I think that the west played a dangerous game in that Kuwait war because they did not really know what Saddam had up his sleeve and it could have gone horribly wrong but we all know what happened. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were basically slaughtered running away from the American war machine but not wishing to upset the rest of the Arab world they stopped at the border. I think the worst thing that Saddam did after that was to not let this thing die down and he kept challenging the west. I remember him being described as a brilliant chess player in the world of [politics but he made a grave mistake in his end game on this one. I think the west had no real idea if he was actually developing WMDs and I believe it was a very real threat. That and the fact that he was constantly rattling his sabre meant that we had to respond to possible but imminent threat. I also believe that the west believed that the threat to the price of oil was very real as well and that was a bigger factor than the WMDs. The US and UK went in to stop the price of oil getting out of hand but the exact opposite has happened. This is why there is still resistance in the region because they know that it is hurting the west. This might have been a contingency plan set up by Saddam and I believe that the west made a great big mistake in not seeing this coming. It is essential that the US get peace in the region now and quickly. Deep down inside I feel that they know that this is not going to happen and this is why the US is having a high profile discussion on alternative fuels. The oil barons are losing the war on black gold and must now invest in other ways. I believe we will see big changes in the fuel we use and even higher prices to pay for the testing and introduction of these bio fuels. Be certain that if there is oil in Cyprus the US will squeeze every last drop of it out of the island to keep going until they have their new sources secured and profitable.




Any way, this is an attempt to get back on track and my understanding of the matter, although I could be wrong.

[shahmaran]

Young punk you are crude arrogant utterly unpleasant who could not hold a civil conversation with an angel let alone a human being. You have a sadistic nature and it showed from your very first obnoxious crude post , wont bother posting what you posted about someones mother just in case it starts you loud mouth off again.
For your limited intelligence as well as your rather pathetic self assurance complex that you posses that only the likes of Eliko find stimulating you have nevertheless just like viper spread enough poison to take out a whole town.
""""i am perfectly capable of having a normal and mannered conversation with everyone else as long as they can keep their hats on """"

Malaka , as the old members of this post will tell you , was a G/C living in Australia who just like you was full of macho expletives and hatred for his fellow Cypriots , if you do a search you see how similar his posts were to yours. While you at it check out another loud mouthed ignorant G/C called Alexander , you two could have set this forum on fire , check him out punk .

miltiades i cant believe how much that first post i made has gotten to you, you still havent managed to get over it, but let me remind you that it was appropiately shocking and directed to someone who believed his middle finger represented TRNC, and had taken the time to make a TRNC flag out of excriment, bit like the stuff inside your head

I believe youre psychology here, totally represents your extreme views on politics and religion (i have seen your other posts on creationism and SAD is the only word i can think of), but let me remind you that you are a very fine example of the kind of person who is bitter because he is aware of the fact that, him and his views, are slowly becoming obsolete. The real down side of arrogance! That is one horrible way to live my friend, i suggest you try digest all this hate that has been accumulating inside you since the days of the conflict, and just try to be a normal human being again, might be easier on the old heart!

I can understand why you would take this issue in such a pathological way, i presume you did witness some violence back in the day and that it has clearly left you scarred for life, altho that is fair enough, not many people really care about that anymore, new generation has not seen any of that and our views are going to prevail over yours eventually, it is the law of nature fortunately, i know it hurts but tough shit!


oh and stop calling me "punk" you might think its "cool" but its extremely irritating!


....right back to Iraq....

[zan]

I tried to read a book on creationism and could not put it down for six days. On the seventh day I had had enough.

[miltiades]

ELIKO WROTE:

""""shahmaran, please do not demean yourself by arguing with ignorance, you are a young man of obvious intelligence and will gain nothing by so doing, you are capable of presenting your views in a mannerly fashion and have demonstrated the fact on numerous occasions. """

Was she /he perhaps referring to this {following post by HA HA } masterly presentation directed no doubt to similarly afflicted individuals ?

SHAHMARANN , the incomparable intellectual that Eliko finds so articulate and civilized in comparison to my self that she describes as ignorant.This is one of his masterpieces no doubt there will be more to come to the applause of , as I said earlier , the similarly afflicted.
Here is his unique contribution to the forum.
""""nice finger by the way i think i can see particles of crust and viginal residue from your mamma, i know coz i got some too....
Hey moron, shut the fuck up, you damn idiot."""