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Postby growuptcs » Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:00 pm

Its also amazing how you discredit America so much, where if it wasn't for them, Turkey wouldn't be crying the same game for Cyprus.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:12 pm

They kill themselves in order to kill as many bystanders and innocent people , they are decrepit , modern day barbarians brain washed into martyrdom by their sick ideology , they are excused by some , poor bastards what else can they do but massacre innocent women and children , they have no other option poor savages.
The suicide syndrome in public places is a new event in the history of our planet.Never before such wanton killing of innocents by warped individuals adhered to a sick and disturbing interpretation of an ideology that has nothing what so ever to do with Islam .
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Postby Eliko » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:00 pm

Ranting and Raving again old man, look up the history of the Cuban revolution and see how the same suicide attacks were used to defeat the American stranglehold on that nation, study also the views of the 'Martyrs' who would rather die than live under oppression.
You have fixed ideas, I have not, I try to understand the motivation of people without necessarily agreeing with them, you however, condemn blindly, anything that is at odds with your opinion miltiades, that is why your arguments are consistantly weak and pointless, unfortunately you also attract the attention of other weak-minded individuals and your views become theirs, please offer us some intelligent observations so that we may have a reasonable discussion on ANY subject.

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Postby shahmaran » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:07 pm

growuptc GROW UP! you are dillusional, you know nothing about me and your assumptians are far from accurate.

and miltiades, its ridiculous watching you sit there trying to comprehend the inner workings of the mind of a suicide bomber, you really are wasting your time really, there is no way you can know what it really takes for someone to decide to do that to themselves and to the people around them, so stop rambeling.

But i can say that they seem to appear when under great pressure from people like USA and Israel, it has got to mean something.

...and not that it matters, but for your information, i believe it was the Tamil Tigers (Sri Lanka) who first made the suicide bomb attacks so poppular, and its not meant to have anything to do with Islam, its just a weapon for desperate people during desperate times :?
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Postby miltiades » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:21 pm

Eliko , you are a dreamer and a self opinionated individual , that you compare the suicide attacks of the Cubans AGAINST AMERICAN TROOPS , equivalent to the murderous attacks against innocent women and children in Iraq is beyond comprehension.Let me remind you that also the Japanese kamikaze also committed suicide by directing their aircraft onto American military targets , where else in history did suicide missions deliberately targeted public places , markets , buses, job centres , funeral processions and you have the audacity to excuse these barbaric and inhumane acts. How dare you just dismiss these horrendous heinous acts by implying that such acts are at odds with my opinions . !!! You have a great deal of soul searching to do so get on with it and stop being so blatantly vulgar in your pathetic analogies .When you post something can you try and include at least some elements of common sense , to call my revulsion at these murders "fixed ideas" and to demand that I try and undersatnd their motivation is obsene. The July 7th bombers in London were also motivated by a sick ideology , people that excuse such savage attacks on the innocent are themselves suffering from an incurable decease called stupidity.
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Postby shahmaran » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:33 pm

right Miltiades, so a suicide bomber is a sick twisted idiot, but when US drops a massive bomb into a house full of Iraqi families blowing them into oblivioun and leaving behind nothing but a massive blood stain, it is simply a misscalculation is that so? or even better when they use White Phousphourus to simply "light up the sky" and end up burning innocent women and children alive is that more humane and justifiable?

you seriously need to recalibrate you moral values and understandings of human life because you are simply judging the methods of killings rather than the motive behind it. im pretty sure if these people all had better means to fight they wouldnt resort to attacks of such nature. the same goes for the Palastinians, i suppose you would have plenty to say about their suicide attacks too, maybe also beyond comprehension?
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Postby GorillaGal » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:03 pm

but shahmaran, the US is not dropping bombs anymore. the war is over.
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Postby zan » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:10 pm

I am afraid if the US were to ley the far east trade on their own terms like you do in any decent economy then most of this shit would not happen. Look at the great joy that was to be had when McDonalds opened its first bar in Moscow. Their business machine is far too agressive.
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Postby GorillaGal » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:12 pm

blame the russians for buying into it. i believe there are even some mcdonalds in cyprus. don't blame the US for that, too. it wouldn't be there if there wasn't suckers to eat there. i personally haven't eatedn at mcdonalds in years.
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Postby zan » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:22 pm

GorillaGal wrote:blame the russians for buying into it. i believe there are even some mcdonalds in cyprus. don't blame the US for that, too. it wouldn't be there if there wasn't suckers to eat there. i personally haven't eatedn at mcdonalds in years.


The whole point is that the US business machine is about the most powerful regime there is and they are applying their trade relentlessly. Look at that stupid affair with the bananas in the Caribbean. What possible threat did they have to the US and the US did every thing they could to close them down. McDonalds is part of a far bigger conglomerate and they are the problem and people like them. They have all avenues covered and if you think that you are not contributing to their cause just take a look at how many different names they own. Add a few that we do not know about and you have one big machine.
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