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[zan]

Well why dont we stretch the 5 year period to NINE YEARS ,that's from 1965 to 1974 . Nine years VP , HOW MANY WERE KILLED EITHER G/C OR T/C .
Foreign" students " please take note. Not one single Turkish Cypriot lost his life as a result of conflict with Greek Cypriots for NINE years prior to Turkey invading. The myth was created after 1974 by those determined to split our people and divide our island. I have said it a million times that Cyprus belongs to us all , not to Turkey or Greece , VP will twist my words constantly ignoring the fundamental points that I have always made. Cyprus where there are no majorities or minorities , Cyprus where a T/C president would be just as welcome as a G/C , Armenian or from other ethnic background provided He or She fly the Cypriot flag.

VP is right you have read no one elses posts and continue with lines that mean nothing. What you are saying is as long as they fly a Greek Cypriot flag.

[Viewpoint]

Well why dont we stretch the 5 year period to NINE YEARS ,that's from 1965 to 1974 . Nine years VP , HOW MANY WERE KILLED EITHER G/C OR T/C .
Foreign" students " please take note. Not one single Turkish Cypriot lost his life as a result of conflict with Greek Cypriots for NINE years prior to Turkey invading. The myth was created after 1974 by those determined to split our people and divide our island. I have said it a million times that Cyprus belongs to us all , not to Turkey or Greece , VP will twist my words constantly ignoring the fundamental points that I have always made. Cyprus where there are no majorities or minorities , Cyprus where a T/C president would be just as welcome as a G/C , Armenian or from other ethnic background provided He or She fly the Cypriot flag.

This is like saying well how many Jews were killed from 1946 to 1966, ho none was there ever a holocaust, the argument is pathetic.

REPEAT

So lets get this straight what you are saying is that because there were no deaths in the last 5 years up to 1974 the Turkish intervention was unwarranted and that we should all ignore the fact that the "RoC" was is disarray, with no solution, TCs were living in ghettos which the GCs prospered, the deaths and refugees between 1963 to 1974, the coup and the imminent danger to TC lives, a time bomb waiting to explode, what was that quote of samson, we will annihilate the TCs in 20 minutes??

You are isolating a specific period in time to support your argument but not taking the whole period from 1960 which lead up to 1974, this just shows your mindset and lack of understanding of the difficult position TCs were in and try to relate the levels of deaths to whether or not action should be taken to protect and save a whole community from danger and harm, even annihilation.

Don't bury your head in the sand.

[Strahd]

Enclaving was your choice, you followed mother Turkeys guidelines...

[Viewpoint]

Enclaving was your choice, you followed mother Turkeys guidelines...

Yeah right, thats because people loved to live in ghettos and fear for their lives, the discrmination and persecution, having their homes burnt down had nothing to do with it....thats why 50% of TCs were made refugees and the whole community were forced to live in 3% of the island.

[zan]

Enclaving was your choice, you followed mother Turkeys guidelines...

Yeah right, thats because people loved to live in ghettos and fear for their lives, the discrmination and persecution, having their homes burnt down had nothing to do with it....thats why 50% of TCs were made refugees and the whole community were forced to live in 3% of the island.

Sounds good to me, when can we do it again.

[Pyrpolizer]

http://www.cypnet.com/north_cyprus_abou ... c_info.php

Even Turkish sources say that only 25,000 TCs were living in enclaves. This brakes down the myth that the TCs were living concentrated in 3% of Cyprus before 1974.

QUOTE:

The second and more intense phase of Turkish Cypriot emigration began after inter-communal strife increased in late 1963. Living conditions for Turkish Cypriots worsened as about 25,000 of them, faced with Greek Cypriot violence, gathered in several enclaves around the island. In addition, all Turkish Cypriots working for the government of the Republic of Cyprus lost their civil service positions. Aid from Turkey allowed those in the enclaves to survive, but life at a subsistence level and the constant threat of violence caused numerous Turkish Cypriots to leave for a better life abroad. As before, most emigrants left for Australia and Britain, but some settled in Turkey. By 1972 the Turkish Cypriot population had declined to around 78,000, and prospects for the community's survival on the island looked bleak.

UNQUOTE.

As for the population of TCs in 1974 been total of 78,000 thats another lie. There is documented evidence that the TCs who moved to the North in 1975 after the Vienna agreement was 50,000. (Cyprus conflic Web site) Add those "fighters" who moved before, add the local population of the northern part we always arrive to the figure of 120,000 TC which was roughly the population of TCs from 1960-74

[Pyrpolizer]

The truth of the matter was the concentration of TCs in enclaves later to be joined together to form a state within a state WAS THE OFFICIAL POLICY OF TURKEY.

The other truth is GC extremists were harrassing, and attacking the TCs so they actually executed most of the work needed.

[Viewpoint]

The truth of the matter was the concentration of TCs in enclaves later to be joined together to form a state within a state WAS THE OFFICIAL POLICY OF TURKEY.

The other truth is GC extremists were harrassing, and attacking the TCs so they actually executed most of the work needed.

So it had nothing to do with their homes being burnt down or the murders? these people just thought lets make our lives a living misery and move into ghettos WRONG WRONG WRONG. People like their comforts they would never do such a thing for any cause they only thing that would make people move and live in squalid conditions is fear or natural disasters.

[zan]

Even Turkish sources say that only 25,000 TCs were living in enclaves. This brakes down the myth that the TCs were living concentrated in 3% of Cyprus before 1974.

All that says is that the ones that were living elsewhere were forced in with the others in the 3% that we had left and nothing else.

[Pyrpolizer]

Read the article Zany and stop talking nonsense. I even quoted the relevant part.

@VP.

Where did I say it had nothing to do with what you said? In fact I said exactly the opposite. The WHOLE truth must be said VP. And the truth was not just that, it was ALSO what Turkey and your fanatic leadership wanted on the first place. There were millions of ways to achieve that, should our lunatics were not doing the job better than anybody.