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[brother]

Yes you are, the GC leader tassos has for so many years been used to happily persucuting the TC community he would never accept anything that would stop him from turning cyprus into a Hellenic country, which may i add will never happen.

[Saint Jimmy]

Yes you are, the GC leader tassos has for so many years been used to happily persucuting the TC community he would never accept anything that would stop him from turning cyprus into a Hellenic country.

Dude,
I don't see what that has to do with the previous post. Could you elaborate?

Anyway, on that: well, you might be right and you might be wrong (not so much about the 'persecuting TCs' part - I tend to agree on that, as far as the past goes -, but rather on the 'not accepting anything that would stop him from making Cyprus a Greek country' bit). Tassos got it his way last time around (that is, April 24, 2004) because GCs were sort of shocked by how important a decision we had to make. It was kind of intimidating, I guess, we are not really used to that:) Also, his arguing and reasoning was rather solid: we were just about to enter the EU, so it made sense for people to believe we'd be stronger after our accession. Now, people are still waiting for the miracle to happen, but it doesn't seem to be coming. I think, if this year there is another referendum, things are going to be different. The argument, in summary, is that it's not up to Tassos (at least, it's not all up to Tassos - we vote).

[brother]

If you get a choice again watch out for tassos as he is a champion at manipulation, like in the first referandum by doing his cry baby act for the unsuspecting GC and making promises he cannot or could not keep.

[Saint Jimmy]

Yep, mostly agree on that. But, to be fair, it looks like we are going to get a new referendum this year. So, given that any new plan that comes forth is bound to be better than Annan 5, at least for GCs (otherwise it would make no sense to bring it to a referendum, right?), he seems to have done the job for GCs...

[brother]

You are making assumptions, why i hear you ask, tassos knows that as much as turkey is under pressure so is he to bring a solution to the table and any outrageous demands will be greeted with an astounding 'no chance' from the other camp.
Make no mistakes the gc community can be democratic and choose but you still need to be part of the rest of the world and the rest of the world is not happy about being backstabbed and will not look to kindly on tassos or gc if they try to do big amenmants to the annan plan which will result in a stalemate like the last 30 years.
May i also add someone trying to bring reunification of people does not get hell bent on defacto recognition with turkey, that is just a game tassos is playing to justifiy partition or in his little mind get big sanctions from turkey and take the whole of cyprus and turn it into a hellenic republic.

[Saint Jimmy]

Hey brother,
what are we really talking about? Even if Tassos wants to kick every TC out of Cyprus and leave the island Greek, we both know he's not gonna get it his way. It's just not going to happen!

So, no matter what his dreams (or delusions) are, the point is that the solution is going to be some version of the Annan plan. He is going to try to make it as favourable to GCs as he can (that is, eliminate any partitionist elements), and your leaders will try to do the same, only in reverse (keep the two communities distinctly separate, under one roof; the latter not being a prerequisite). What did you expect him to do? Would you expect Talat to do what Tassos wants?

I don't understand why you keep suggesting that as long as Tassos is in charge, the solution won't come. We followed him (well, 76% of us did) the first time around, but he's not as strong any more... People have realized that even by being in the EU, we are not going to kick any Turkish ass, and that we'd better get used to the Annan plan, cuz it's here to stay.