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TRNC INDEPENDACE WAS JUST A DREAM-TALAT

Postby boulio » Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:25 pm

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?ID=35405

SEE insan they do have english
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Postby insan » Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:39 pm

Yes, bulio. I thought you've read it directly on a Turkish daily...


Regarding the words of Talat concerning the "independence"; yes, under current circumstances the independence of a TC state is not feasible but if all alternatives for a fair unification fails, it will be the only way for TCs to struggle to gain. TCs don't have to wait for another 30 years in hope of a fair unification.
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Postby Piratis » Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:19 am

Regarding the words of Talat concerning the "independence"; yes, under current circumstances the independence of a TC state is not feasible but if all alternatives for a fair unification fails, it will be the only way for TCs to struggle to gain.


Oh, so you will now deny that since the day it was created the "TRNC" was trying to get recognized, and you are going to tell us that what you were trying for was a "fair unification" .. oh, please!

Partition is what TCs have always tried to achieve. At some point they simply realized they couldn't get it exactly the way they wanted it, and they decided to try for a disguised partition this time, especially now that this disguised partition would have the added bonus of EU.

So don't pretend that TCs supposedly want a "fair unification". What TCs want is partition, or something as much close to partition as possible.
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Postby insan » Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:06 am

Oh, so you will now deny that since the day it was created the "TRNC" was trying to get recognized, and you are going to tell us that what you were trying for was a "fair unification" .. oh, please!



TRNC was an attempt of the then Turkish ruling elite as a reaction to the then Hellen's ruling elite intransigience on the federal solution as it was agreed upon in 1977 and 1979. They planned to open the door to both a federal solution as agreed in 1977-79 and a seperate state. This is my own pwerspective over this issue.

Partition is what TCs have always tried to achieve.


Partition is what TCs have always been pushed by Hellen's ruling elite. As long as Hellen's ruling elite insist on taking full control of Cyprus, partition will be the only alternative for TCs to choose.

At some point they simply realized they couldn't get it exactly the way they wanted it, and they decided to try for a disguised partition this time, especially now that this disguised partition would have the added bonus of EU.


You are mistaken about the disguised partition but EU membership has been a very attracting factor for so many TCs who was considering it as a better life in EU standards.

So don't pretend that TCs supposedly want a "fair unification". What TCs want is partition, or something as much close to partition as possible.



Yes, TCs want a fair unification but it is obvious that what is fair for TCs was considered unfair by some or majority of GCs. I'm not so sure because as I said many times before, there were some justifiable aspects of GC no to the Annan Plan.
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Postby magikthrill » Fri Dec 31, 2004 2:03 am

According to the article:

[Talat] will work for the establishment of a common state based on two equal nations, two democracies and two states. However, such remarks only make him weaker.


How is this "solution" any different then simply recognizing the partition.

It seems to me that its favorable to TCs to have an agreed partition rather than an independant state, since if the pseudo state gained independence it would most likely never enter the EU and never reach a percentage of the prosperity the residents of the RoC have.
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