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[zan]

Pyro


You know the worst thing is that I can see the Cypriot in you. You come here thinking that you know it all and expect to change everybody’s mind to your way of thinking. You argue and argue and then finally you cannot control yourself and you want to kill everyone. You then scream and shout that no body understands you and that every one but you is wrong. There certainly is a Cypriot gene and you and my dad have got it. He is in his 80s and still he knows what is best for everyone. He eats the best food and goes to the best places and wears the best cloths and we the Turks invented everything. Unfortunately his claim and dream that Cyprus is the best place in the world has vanished and he is totally lost and does not know where to belong. A proud and annoying man lost in time. His stories of the urumchuk that lent him his type writer and laughed at him because he could type with only one finger was told with fondness and now the GC means a whole different thing to him because of people like you. His stubbornness will not allow him to accept the fact when I tell him you are not all the same. He is most of the time a miserable and lonely man and you are well on the way to being just like him. Perhaps it is time for you to be less Cypriot and more human. It is not to late.

[Pyrpolizer]

Listen Zan you know NOTHING about me and I assure you if you knew you would laugh with what you said.

This is a political forum. I know your views and I am sick of your partitionist views. This is all I care about you in this forum. It doesn't matter for me if you are a good or a bad person, a millionaire or poor, a scientist or a garbage collector.
You are a declared partitionist, which means you support the grabbing and keeping of other peoples homes and lands, and their ethnic cleansing. For me this is WHAT YOU ARE. All the rest don't count for me.

Your post is nothing but a personal attack and a character assisination effort. I am really sorry for your using your own father's weaknesses just to make a point. Where has the respect to older people (and specifically to our own parents) he taught you gone? Leave your father aside man...

I am immune to character assisination efforts....

[Pyrpolizer]

By the way whats urumchuk?
That should be turkish, no?

[zan]

So you attacking people and calling them all the names under the sun is not character assassination but a shrewd political move, is that it. Where is your politics? Does politics mean that you take other peoples views and shred them up and then expect them to take only yours. You claim yourself to be a clever man and then you talk utter rubbish. People don’t always challenge you because, like me, most of the time they do not think you worthy of their time.


There can be no turning back of time and your demands are unreasonable. It s as simple as that. The war was not started in 1974 but in 1963 when our first president screwed things up and we have what we have today. There can only be partial return of the refugees for humanitarian reasons. There has to be a sort of partition for the same reasons. The sooner you get that into your thick Cypriot head the better. I find that you are actually more clever than Piratis and Kifeas because you sort of know how to use your intelligence where as they are just puppets. At the moment though you have gone completely bananas.

You say if I knew you I would laugh at my analysis of you, so what are you saying, that you are putting on some sort of persona to win points on a political discussion? Are you playing games with important issues and screwing with peoples minds, GCs as well as TCs? If not then I believe I know you pretty well and my comparison of you with my father still stands. You say that I should show him more respect and I believe that again you are playing games but I will tell you that it gave me no pleasure to write what I did. I love my father and it pains me to see him that way. There is nothing in your character that would make me laugh, just as I cant laugh at him.


There is a lot more that I suspect about you and although I said you are clever you are not as clever as you think. I’ve got your number. Your appearance on this forum was not by chance. I believe I made the right comment at the time. Keep working though, you know what they say about idle hands……Perhaps you don’t.

[Pyrpolizer]

What's urumchuk Zan?

[zan]

What's urumchuk Zan?

Spelt in a way that you would read it. It is actually "urumcuk" read "ooroomjook", with shortened "OO's". It means "little Greek", man usually.

[Pyrpolizer]

It means "little Greek", man usually.

That’s very funny. My granny plus myself together know about 100 Turkish words. There is however one word both me and my granny know for sure.Greek in turkish is RUM not URUM !!!!
Graaaaannyyyyy…

[zan]

It means "little Greek", man usually.

That’s very funny. My granny plus myself together know about 100 Turkish words. There is however one word both me and my granny know for sure.Greek in turkish is RUM not URUM !!!!
Graaaaannyyyyy…

As you are well aware (well I thought you were) there are many dialects even in the small island of Cyprus. My particular upbringing which was originally Cyprus we spoke a certain dialect of Kibrisca which is a bastardised version of Turkish. If you are really interested I can provide you with many more examples but for instance you can take the "rum" and the one we used in my family "urum". The other example I can give you now is all my life I knew the word for table as "massa" but when my brother inlaw came into the family, for the first time I heard the word "darapez". For the word sack we used "sakgulli" he used "sagulla".


There you go, you have learned something new and that makes you a better man and to double your betterness I will tell you that the dialects in Turkey are even greater. My pleasure.

[Pyrpolizer]

That was my whole point in another discussion Zan.
I have many cousins like you who left for England before going to school. Most of them do not even know understandable Cypriot dialect no matter how much their parents talked to them. When they try to talk everybody laughs, so sooner or later they switch to English...

In your above post most of the words you mentioned are actually paraphrased Greek, not really greek, Greek Cypriot dialect.

Then you expected me to believe you went to Turkey learned it's people and you are sure you are a "Bit of All of them" without even been able to communicate with them on the first place, using this cypriot dialect.

The funniest thing of all is my cousins think they are Greeks and they have Greek flags at home. Same as you I assume.

But since you did me this favor of doubling my betterness how could I stay behind? So here's my little contribution. When you go to Turkey and you see a woman that you like tell her "hello bebechik" and if you go to Greece tell her "yia sou kouklaki"

[zan]

That was my whole point in another discussion Zan.
I have many cousins like you who left for England before going to school. Most of them do not even know understandable Cypriot dialect no matter how much their parents talked to them. When they try to talk everybody laughs, so sooner or later they switch to English...

In your above post most of the words you mentioned are actually paraphrased Greek, not really greek, Greek Cypriot dialect.

Then you expected me to believe you went to Turkey learned it's people and you are sure you are a "Bit of All of them" without even been able to communicate with them on the first place, using this cypriot dialect.

The funniest thing of all is my cousins think they are Greeks and they have Greek flags at home. Same as you I assume.

But since you did me this favor of doubling my betterness how could I stay behind? So here's my little contribution. When you go to Turkey and you see a woman that you like tell her "hello bebechik" and if you go to Greece tell her "yia sou kouklaki"

Lets get this flag issue out of the way first. I do not possess a single flag and probably never will. I don't really care for flags for the same reason I never had any posters up in my bedroom as I was growing up. I like the music and not always the person singing. I have a brain that can distinguish between the two. I even like some of George Michael’s music though I don't care for him. Even though I will admit I have never met him as such (only once I think when we were younger) and am open-minded and might like him. My concern is Cyprus and its people. At the moment I am forced to take sides and defend my Turkish Cypriot brothers....end of.



Now about the rest of your rubbish post about me not relating to my Turkish brothers from Turkey.

I have made the point before that I can usually spot a Cypriot from about a mile away without them opening their mouths. I can also do the same with those from Turkey and recently can even pick out the Kurds. I had four Black guys working for me once, one from Jamaica one from St Lucia a Bejan and one from Montserat. I can now pick out the differences between these different islanders.....to a degree. Now where am I going with this....well......I can see the difference in these guys but I feel no affinity with them. I have nothing really in common with them. When it comes to the various people from Turkey though, and my family has had many friendships with different people from different areas, I have an instant affinity with them no matter what. It seems that the many confused GC and TC youth of today have a kind of affinity with Bob Marley these days but that is a whole other story. So when you are formulating a theory about a person and to who they feel they are most at home with perhaps it would be better to ask rather than guess. It seems that you are not very good at it so the advice should be taken seriously.