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[humanist]

Kikapu that is the best solution to the problem .......... there are so many "gusel" TSC girls and boys why not. Am surprised @ how low the number of interacial (lack of better term) mariages exist or not exist as the case may be. Bring it on! After alll we do belong to the same human species ..... I think

Kikapu for president

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu that is the best solution to the problem .......... there are so many "gusel" TSC girls and boys why not. Am surprised @ how low the number of interacial (lack of better term) mariages exist or not exist as the case may be. Bring it on! After alll we do belong to the same human species ..... I think

Kikapu for president

The prejudices are just to high for either side to accept inter-communal marriages. They would rather see their children marry any other nationality but that of the other side which even today is looked on as a sin and a family disappointment.

[Kikapu]

Shit, one told me I am not as handsome as the Greeks, I am as ugly as the Turks, because I am from Cyprus.

Now I know what you look like Pyrpolizer, because I saw you in the mirror this morning , as I was shaving.!!

[Pyrpolizer]

Don't really understand this maybe its lost in the English...please clarify.

I say you yourself assimilated with the GCs just by talking in the forums. No TC is so talkative like you. You became talkative, and you even surpassed the GCs. You became a non stop mouth just like the average GC….

[Viewpoint]

Don't really understand this maybe its lost in the English...please clarify.

I say you yourself assimilated with the GCs just by talking in the forums. No TC is so talkative like you. You became talkative, and you even surpassed the GCs. You became a non stop mouth just like the average GC….

[Pyrpolizer]

Shit, one told me I am not as handsome as the Greeks, I am as ugly as the Turks, because I am from Cyprus.

Now I know what you look like Pyrpolizer, because I saw you in the mirror this morning , as I was shaving.!!

[Pyrpolizer]

Don't really understand this maybe its lost in the English...please clarify.

I say you yourself assimilated with the GCs just by talking in the forums. No TC is so talkative like you. You became talkative, and you even surpassed the GCs. You became a non stop mouth just like the average GC….

Deep inside you know I am telling the truth, but you don't want to admit it.

[humanist]

I am sure that if we really wanted to solve the Cyprus problem we have enough knowledge and intellegence in this forum that we could do it. This is not a joke, I am really thrilled at the dialogue that is taking place here tonight. Or perhaps I can just simply see both sides of the same story.

Thanks guys.

[Viewpoint]

Don't really understand this maybe its lost in the English...please clarify.

I say you yourself assimilated with the GCs just by talking in the forums. No TC is so talkative like you. You became talkative, and you even surpassed the GCs. You became a non stop mouth just like the average GC….

Deep inside you know I am telling the truth, but you don't want to admit it.

You talk in riddles what truth???

[BirKibrisli]

Please don't take this the wrong way Bir as I believe everyone is free to marry who they wish but don't you feel you have let the TC people down by marrying first Turkish then Australian? Your children will never be TCs however much you may wish this, it is very rare to find mixed marriages where the children consider themselves Turkish Cypriot. Your TC line gene is lost forever and that is very sad for us as a people. If you were able to raise your children here on the island you would have had the opportunity to instill some of our culture and language in them. Can your daughters speak Turkish? do they know any of your culture and roots? have they even been to Cyprus? Now your attitude towards TCs is much clearer as in time you have become a TC in origin but more a foreigner of mixed cultures and beliefs, that why you have difficulty in identifying with your TC side first before any other cultural bonding.

I don't know if this makes any diference to your thinking,but I married Autralian first and Turkish second...Do you want to change anything in the above post,Viewpoint,before I reply to it???

No go ahead, Im interested to hear your view, are you still married to the Turkish lady?

No,Viewpoint,I am not still maried to the Turkish lady.
My daughters understand and speak some very basic Turkish,but their knowledge and understanding of my culture is limited to the cuisine which they all love. My son identifies with being Turkish primarily,and speaks Turkish as mother tongue,and is a fanatical Galatasaray supporter (like his mother!) while I support Fenerbahche!..He too loves the Cypriot cuisine,and is very curious about Cyprus because of his strong bonding with my mother who at 86 is still a tower of strength as most Cypriot women are.

It is not the fault of my daughters that they know so little about my culture and background.They are now 22 and 20,and I am working hard to make up for my past mistakes,because I was not available to them physically and emotionally when they were growing up. I was too busy being the driven,angst ridden,insecure typical migrant/exile who just had to work harder,laugh louder,eat and drink more,have the better car and earn more money than anybody else. I thought it was enough to provide them and their mother with everything money could buy,while I was searching for my lost sense of identity and belonging.To cut a long story short,after a turbulent life my world came crushing down when I was diagnosed with a life treatening illness at age 49. I literally had to stop and change my life entirely if I were to live to see age 50.During this process I discovered what was wrong with my pretentiously very successful ,but in fact miserable life.It was very simple really.I was denying my true self,my true identity which was a Cypriot above all.I was a son of Cyprus.Cyprus was my motherland.I had no other.I missed the sound of the church bells,the sight of the little blue and white houses,
the sight of those little village GC women in their black attire,the sound of Cypriot Greek,the sound of bouzikie,as much as I missed their TC equivalent.I was living in Australia but my heart and soul belonged in Cyprus.This does not mean that I don't value or deny the Turkish part of my identity.I love the Turkish language and music and literature etc as much as anybody else.But having learned English and also French as third language,I know that there is nothing special about what language you speak and what religion you believe in,they are just manmade systems of communication and belief (very much like computer softwhere),which are ment to help people make sense of their world.That these are used to divide and rule people should be forever condemned.
I feel closer to Kifeas,Piratis,miltiades,Bananiot,Cypezokyli, humanist,Kikapu,Pyro,Alexios et al, in heart and mind than I will ever feel for those poor(not materially) settlers in a million years.And if things go the way it is,and the TC culture is totally assimilated by the Turkish culture,where will my daughters go one day if they want to find out about their father's origins and identity?The only place they will find people with similar heart,mind,body and spirit as myself would be in the Republic of Cyprus,or Greek Cyprus as you would call it...That is why I empathise and sympathise with the Greek speaking Cypriots.I am one of them,except that I speak Turkish.And because I am not a practising muslim but a Sufi with his own belief about the nature and function of God,it matters little that they are Orthodox Christians.
I hope this has not turned into a long and boring sermon,Viewpoint.
But,as all Cypriots, I come from a long line of philosophers and bon vivants, going back to Socrates,Aristotle, Epicurus,Lucretius and Vergil...
A bit of self indulgence is in my Cypriot nature.