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I found this on the internet.

The Evaluation of the Results of the Census
According to the tentative 30 April 2006 Census the De-Facto population
growth of the TRNC is %31.7 from December 1996 (9 years and 4 months
time period) and the number of population increased from 200,587 to 264,172
tentative number. The details and exact results of this increase which will be
stated in six months time will not only includ the permament resident
population (De-Jure population) but also the increase of the population who
are living in the country for turism, work and etc.

So my guesstimate of 264,000 was not far off the mark...
Now,how will be know how many of these are original TCs???
Could my guesstimate of 65,000 be also close to the mark,I wonder...

Those questions were asked quite clearly about your origins so they will be able to tell who is a TC and who is a Turkish settler.

[Pyrpolizer]

VP what do you have to say about the 31% increase? All the TCs I know have only 1-2 children, same like the GCs.

Bir you are not far away from the 65,000 if you account for the 100% real TCs. However if you add the number of those who got married with mainland Turks I would say we come up with about equal number of permanent TCs with permanent settlers. For example Sener Levent is married with a mainland Turkish woman, If remember correct you said somewhere your wife was also from Turkey. I would never consider your children "settlers" that would be paranoid.

[BirKibrisli]

VP what do you have to say about the 31% increase? All the TCs I know have only 1-2 children, same like the GCs.

Bir you are not far away from the 65,000 if you account for the 100% real TCs. However if you add the number of those who got married with mainland Turks I would say we come up with about equal number of permanent TCs with permanent settlers. For example Sener Levent is married with a mainland Turkish woman, If remember correct you said somewhere your wife was also from Turkey. I would never consider your children "settlers" that would be paranoid.

I see what you are saying,Pyro,and I agree with you mate.There needs to be some flexibility in who we decide can stay in Cyprus. You are right,my son's mother is from Turkey.And because he is living with her most of the time he identifies with being Turkish. He was born in Turkey but came to Australia when he was 6 months old.He is now 7,and I hope he will one day chose to play football for the Cyprus national team,not the Turkish or the Australian...

PS He loves halloumi,kolokas,molohia,makaroni in the oven,and seftalides.He can't really be that Turkish!

[miltiades]

Birkibrisly , do you know something ? They dont make them like us any more brother .

[BirKibrisli]

Birkibrisly , do you know something ? They dont make them like us any more brother .

[Pyrpolizer]

VP what do you have to say about the 31% increase? All the TCs I know have only 1-2 children, same like the GCs.

Bir you are not far away from the 65,000 if you account for the 100% real TCs. However if you add the number of those who got married with mainland Turks I would say we come up with about equal number of permanent TCs with permanent settlers. For example Sener Levent is married with a mainland Turkish woman, If remember correct you said somewhere your wife was also from Turkey. I would never consider your children "settlers" that would be paranoid.

I see what you are saying,Pyro,and I agree with you mate.There needs to be some flexibility in who we decide can stay in Cyprus. You are right,my son's mother is from Turkey.And because he is living with her most of the time he identifies with being Turkish. He was born in Turkey but came to Australia when he was 6 months old.He is now 7,and I hope he will one day chose to play football for the Cyprus national team,not the Turkish or the Australian...

PS He loves halloumi,kolokas,molohia,makaroni in the oven,and seftalides.He can't really be that Turkish!

I wouldn't worry about your son Bir. He is a little boy it is perfectly natural to side by him mother for the moment. Just wait a little and you will be surprised how he will practically struggle to immitate you and become like you. He will be a second Birkibrisli one day and a REAL Cypriot like you, mark my words.

NB. It is daughters you should fear from, not sons. They usually become copies of their mothers.

[BirKibrisli]

VP what do you have to say about the 31% increase? All the TCs I know have only 1-2 children, same like the GCs.

Bir you are not far away from the 65,000 if you account for the 100% real TCs. However if you add the number of those who got married with mainland Turks I would say we come up with about equal number of permanent TCs with permanent settlers. For example Sener Levent is married with a mainland Turkish woman, If remember correct you said somewhere your wife was also from Turkey. I would never consider your children "settlers" that would be paranoid.

I see what you are saying,Pyro,and I agree with you mate.There needs to be some flexibility in who we decide can stay in Cyprus. You are right,my son's mother is from Turkey.And because he is living with her most of the time he identifies with being Turkish. He was born in Turkey but came to Australia when he was 6 months old.He is now 7,and I hope he will one day chose to play football for the Cyprus national team,not the Turkish or the Australian...

PS He loves halloumi,kolokas,molohia,makaroni in the oven,and seftalides.He can't really be that Turkish!

I wouldn't worry about your son Bir. He is a little boy it is perfectly natural to side by him mother for the moment. Just wait a little and you will be surprised how he will practically struggle to immitate you and become like you. He will be a second Birkibrisli one day and a REAL Cypriot like you, mark my words.

NB. It is daughters you should fear from, not sons. They usually become copies of their mothers.

From your mouth to God's ear,as they say,Pyro gardash.
If God has an ear that is!

You are not far wrong about daughters either.
I have two of those as well. One is the exact copy of her Australian mother.But the other is a true individualist,not a copy of anyone.She is my favourite,though she gives me a hard time sometimes. She is studying arts/law at Uni now. I wouldn't want to cross swords with her when she becomes a lawyer. The other is studying to be an actor,like her mother...

[Viewpoint]

VP what do you have to say about the 31% increase? All the TCs I know have only 1-2 children, same like the GCs.

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It is no secret that these figures include settlers who have become TRNC citizens plus their off spring so the increase is no surprise. This could be compared to your sudden influx of Pontiac's and Russians many of which have GC Citizenship and have had children in the south. We should also take into account those TCs that have come back from living abroad which are continually increasing in number and will do as the economic gap narrows with what they are used to abroad or they choose retirement to live out their last years in their country TRNC.

The whole argument for TCs is who they side to be assimilated to GCs or Turks? as both sides of the stick are shitty as we say for us. It appears that choice has been made and in time we will become more Turkish than Cypriot and you will have to share the island with people who no longer identify themselves with you but more and more with the motherland this is unavoidable. Whats the alternative assimilation with GCs? Tcs have that option now they can go live in the GC state "RoC" today if they wish, nothing stopping them.

[Viewpoint]

Birkibrisly , do you know something ? They dont make them like us any more brother .

Thank god, your time was the 1960s, it has passed and their is a new generation of well educated TCs and GCs who know deep down that these 2 communities cannot reunite due a vast chasm of differences. People like yourselves live and will die with a hope that everything will one day go back to how it was and everyone will live happily ever after, well sorry to burst your bubble but I am realist and believe that neither side wants reunification and will not take the steps to compromise or work together to build trust, we have many examples of this, the bridge being the last fiasco of "Cypriot" cooperation and togetherness. It just dont exist.

[Viewpoint]

VP what do you have to say about the 31% increase? All the TCs I know have only 1-2 children, same like the GCs.

Bir you are not far away from the 65,000 if you account for the 100% real TCs. However if you add the number of those who got married with mainland Turks I would say we come up with about equal number of permanent TCs with permanent settlers. For example Sener Levent is married with a mainland Turkish woman, If remember correct you said somewhere your wife was also from Turkey. I would never consider your children "settlers" that would be paranoid.

I see what you are saying,Pyro,and I agree with you mate.There needs to be some flexibility in who we decide can stay in Cyprus. You are right,my son's mother is from Turkey.And because he is living with her most of the time he identifies with being Turkish. He was born in Turkey but came to Australia when he was 6 months old.He is now 7,and I hope he will one day chose to play football for the Cyprus national team,not the Turkish or the Australian...

PS He loves halloumi,kolokas,molohia,makaroni in the oven,and seftalides.He can't really be that Turkish!

Please don't take this the wrong way Bir as I believe everyone is free to marry who they wish but don't you feel you have let the TC people down by marrying first Turkish then Australian? Your children will never be TCs however much you may wish this, it is very rare to find mixed marriages where the children consider themselves Turkish Cypriot. Your TC line gene is lost forever and that is very sad for us as a people. If you were able to raise your children here on the island you would have had the opportunity to instill some of our culture and language in them. Can your daughters speak Turkish? do they know any of your culture and roots? have they even been to Cyprus? Now your attitude towards TCs is much clearer as in time you have become a TC in origin but more a foreigner of mixed cultures and beliefs, that why you have difficulty in identifying with your TC side first before any other cultural bonding.