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[andri_cy]

Birkibrisli , I see you haven't been to Cyprus for 40 Years !! Don't leave it too long mate .
I was born about 6 miles away from Polis , which village were you born in ? Mine was Stroumbi , the old village before the earthquake of 1953 .

Ps , your mother's land still belongs to her .

You are right,Miltiades...
I haven't been home for over 40 years.Though I was in the TRNC last in 1999! I was born in Kios (Istinco in Turkish). And in 1953 I was a tottler in Sarama about 2 km from Istinco,during the famous earthquake...

We were essentially neighbours in Cyprus...Fancy that!
My mother is 86...I wonder if she will live long enough to see a solution to Cypro,so she can have her land back??? Thank you for your sentiments,dear friend.If Kikapu makes it out in one piece,I might be tempted to go home too...

Bir your mother can have her land back as soon as she asks for it. Does she have the deeds?

[humanist]

The copies of deeds will be @ the lands title's office in Nicosia, wouldn't they? I would encourage Bir to search for it and re-claim it.

[andri_cy]

I would encourage him to re-mail it also. I am sure the deeds would be at the office. It is just so much easier if he had them also. That's all I am saying.

[BirKibrisli]

I would encourage him to re-mail it also. I am sure the deeds would be at the office. It is just so much easier if he had them also. That's all I am saying.

Thank you both,dears Andri and humanist...
Mother has the originals of the deeds in her hands.
But I don't think it is fair for her to get her land back while the GC refugees cannot have theirs.So we will probably wait for a few more years to see if a comprehensive solution can be found.And hope for a long life for my mother...

[humanist]

Birk you are not responsible for the Greek Speaking Refugees not having their land back and neither for the occupation forces, I would encourage you as a Cypriot to claim your land and do whatever you wish with it. Perhaps you may want to keep it there so that your children can inherit it. I suggest you act now that your mother is alive as things may be more difficult later on.

This land business is interesting an I think the inevitable will be that some Greek Speaking Cypriot refugees may never get their land back under any solution. What is important is that we get our people together nd for all Cypriots to Unite in a just and fair Cyprus where they can co-exist and learn from each other.

If you were given land in the North then I would probably disagree that you would have claim to the land in the south but from a previous discussion it does not appear to be the case. So go for it. It can be the beginning of give and take appropriately for a Cyprus solution.

Perhaps what is needed is for all Turksih Speaking Cypriots to return to their properties in the South if they feel safe enough in a EU Sate Cyprus 2007. This may illustrate to the occupation forces and the rest of the World that Turkey no longer plays a role in protecting the needs of Turksih Speaking Cypriots and need to get their sorry arses out of there, beacuse humanist said so. last sentece said in tongue an cheek. Then we could look at a solution based on a fair share of political representation and power of all Cypriots regardless of their CALD background.

[BirKibrisli]

Perhaps what is needed is for all Turksih Speaking Cypriots to return to their properties in the South if they feel safe enough in a EU Sate Cyprus 2007. This may illustrate to the occupation forces and the rest of the World that Turkey no longer plays a role in protecting the needs of Turksih Speaking Cypriots and need to get their sorry arses out of there, beacuse humanist said so. last sentece said in tongue an cheek. Then we could look at a solution based on a fair share of political representation and power of all Cypriots regardless of their CALD background.

I'd say it would be impractical for most TCs to return to the South,humanist,even if they felt safe enough.My mother's generation who really remember what it was like before 1960,and who are emotionally attached to their villages or towns have mostly passed away by now.The rest are very old to do anythign on their own. My generation mostly remember the bad times of 1963-74,and having had education and careers elsewhere are not likely to want to return.
Even if they did,it wouldn't be that easy to shift Turkey out.Everybody knows that if their motivation was to protect the TCs they could do it just as well from Turkey with a rapid deployment force or whatever.

ps I will consider your comments on Mother's land seriously and will talk to her about it.After all it is her land (given to her by her father as part of her dowry) and she will have to decide what she wants to do.Thanks for the advice...

[Kikapu]

.If Kikapu makes it out in one piece,I might be tempted to go home too...

Birkibrisli,

Thanks for your support, regarding me going back to Cyprus. I also need to look into my mothers land , which was shared between the sisters and brothers, after her parents passed away. Others decided to exchange their land deeds in the South to land in the North, but my mother never did, because we were all out of Cyprus by 1966, and there was no need to exchange. I'm glad it worked out this way, for the long run.

There're a lot of papers, all over the place, so I need to try to get to the bottom of all this, by doing some leg work now and also when I come to Cyprus.

I also have concerns, going to the North, regarding the whole military service thing and exit papers, and all the running around. I have received so many different accounts, as to what the rules are, I do not know who to believe anymore. I'll PM you later, to ask you few questions, regarding your visit in 1999. I dont want to bore the rest of the people on the forum with it.

Listen, I managed to get out in one piece, back in 1964, with bullets flying, even after having been taken a prisoner, so I'll get out again this time, in year 2007, otherwise RoC will have to deal with Miltiades. They are no match for him.

PS. You stay away from Karma.

[BirKibrisli]

.If Kikapu makes it out in one piece,I might be tempted to go home too...

Birkibrisli,

Thanks for your support, regarding me going back to Cyprus. I also need to look into my mothers land , which was shared between the sisters and brothers, after her parents passed away. Others decided to exchange their land deeds in the South to land in the North, but my mother never did, because we were all out of Cyprus by 1966, and there was no need to exchange. I'm glad it worked out this way, for the long run.

There're a lot of papers, all over the place, so I need to try to get to the bottom of all this, by doing some leg work now and also when I come to Cyprus.

I also have concerns, going to the North, regarding the whole military service thing and exit papers, and all the running around. I have received so many different accounts, as to what the rules are, I do not know who to believe anymore. I'll PM you later, to ask you few questions, regarding your visit in 1999. I dont want to bore the rest of the people on the forum with it.

Listen, I managed to get out in one piece, back in 1964, with bullets flying, even after having been taken a prisoner, so I'll get out again this time, in year 2007, otherwise RoC will have to deal with Miltiades. They are no match for him.

PS. You stay away from Karma.

I agree they will be no match for dear miltiades.

Ps.I'd gladly stay away from Karma if I knew where she is.
Can you give me her address???

[andri_cy]

haha bir nice try

[BirKibrisli]

haha bir nice try

I am just fond of Swiss chocolates,Andri...