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[Pyrpolizer]

Oh right, how could I miss that? The EU would never let war happen in Cyprus because Cyprus is so much less weight than England!!
You never cease to amaze me zany.

The problem is that they would not want to get embroiled in a war, which could escalate into something big from a piss ass country like the RoC. If you think that you are going to persuade the EU that you can attack anyone without his or her consent then you are deluded. That is the reason that they allowed the RoC in to give them control, and you guys claim it as a victory. Well you can but you can't raise your arms in victory because they are tied behind your back. I for one welcome that fact and you should too if you are not a warmonger or are you going to say that it is out of your hands Pontius Pilot.

And where did I say that war in Cyprus would mean the RoC will atttack?All I said is that the situation is not really "peace" it has all elements that could brake a war. Who would start it, who would attack, and when, nobody knows. It is just a hanging rock on a string. Without a solution, it may brake anytime, it may not. Like I said you crystal ball says it will not happen, what further proof do I need? I am now convinced, thank you.

But again I am really tired of answering your idiocys out of context. Go read the discussion from the beginning and stop pinching yourself and jumping up like a lunatic for no reason..

[Pyrpolizer]

Now you are talking sense and you have included many elements which would be acceptable to the majority of TCs,

Unlike Bananiot and most TCs in the forum, I always talk sense. Thank you!

We have absolutely no problem living with GCs or do we wish to force Kemalism or Religion on anyone,

You did seem to have a problem accepting that you will have to live and share the north with Greek Cypriots, and you did try to force Kemalism on those GCs wishing to return and live in the north; and both of them were very profoundly manifested in the way the Annan plan turned out to have been, adding in this way another one reason among those that compelled the Greek Cypriots to reject it. Now you have the audacity to shamelessly try and blame the Greek Cypriots for having rejected it!

To you any thing that remotely has links to be Turkish is Kemalism so how can we win with you any shape or form. Nothing short of converting to Helenism is good enough for you when most of us TCs are happy to leave you as you are.

Zan, how many times need I see that I wish no discussion with brainwashed idiots of low IQ like your self?

This guy is a declared Turkish Nationalist and partitionist, no wonder why he was kicked out in the 60s. What do you think he is doing here?

[zan]

What I am doing here is trying to talk to guys like yourself who are convinced that you are right and all Turks are bad. Your rhetoric is witness to that. You guys cannot conduct a civil conversation without resorting to half truths but you expect me and others to sit back and listen to you bad mouthing people that have suffered for a long time due to the incompetent actions of your beloved Makarios who was given the power to make Cyprus a heaven on earth. If you don't like hearing the truth about what happened in Cyprus and what is likely to happen then don't tune in because I am going nowhere. I truly feel guilt when I have to argue with you guys rather than talk and come to a sensible conclusion but it is soon put aside when I hear the way you talk about us. The realities are the here and now not what you guys dream about whilst masturbating about how many millions you will get and how much you will stuff it to the Turkish people. When you realise the hate you have in you and stop pretending that you are reasonable people then we might get somewhere. That comment does not apply to ALL GCs but to those I have experienced on this forum and others that completely ignore the fact that I and my requirements exist.


Anyway end of statement resumption of talks.....hahahahahaha! What a joke.


Kifeas
I have told you before it does your IQ no good to keep telling me that you are not speaking to me. It will not stop me on correcting your lies though so dream on.

[BirKibrisli]

This guy is a declared Turkish Nationalist and partitionist, no wonder why he was kicked out in the 60s. What do you think he is doing here?

If my maths is right Zan was about 3 or 4 when he was "kicked out" of Cyprus. The only thing he could declare those days was his need for his Mummy and Daddy and a sense of security to grow up happily in his land of birth.

I can only guess he is here, like all of us, to try to make sense of why he was "kicked out" of his motherland...

[Pyrpolizer]

What does he know of Makarios and all that stuff then?
He knows nothing. All he knows is what his fanatic Turkish Nationalist parents told him, and they turned him to be their exact image.

[Pyrpolizer]

What I am doing here is trying to talk to guys like yourself who are convinced that you are right and all Turks are bad. Your rhetoric is witness to that. You guys cannot conduct a civil conversation without resorting to half truths but you expect me and others to sit back and listen to you bad mouthing people that have suffered for a long time due to the incompetent actions of your beloved Makarios who was given the power to make Cyprus a heaven on earth. If you don't like hearing the truth about what happened in Cyprus and what is likely to happen then don't tune in because I am going nowhere. I truly feel guilt when I have to argue with you guys rather than talk and come to a sensible conclusion but it is soon put aside when I hear the way you talk about us. The realities are the here and now not what you guys dream about whilst masturbating about how many millions you will get and how much you will stuff it to the Turkish people. When you realise the hate you have in you and stop pretending that you are reasonable people then we might get somewhere. That comment does not apply to ALL GCs but to those I have experienced on this forum and others that completely ignore the fact that I and my requirements exist.


Anyway end of statement resumption of talks.....hahahahahaha! What a joke.


Kifeas
I have told you before it does your IQ no good to keep telling me that you are not speaking to me. It will not stop me on correcting your lies though so dream on.

Speak as much as you like. The more you speak the sooner you will be exposed. So far you were kind of masturbating quietly in here. Come on boy let's see your true face the soonest possible.

[zan]

What does he know of Makarios and all that stuff then?
He knows nothing. All he knows is what his fanatic Turkish Nationalist parents told him, and they turned him to be their exact image.

What I would do is leave parents out of this and talk to me. If you met my parents you would soon see that they are simple people with little needs. My dad only spoke Greek untill he was nearly ten years old and his mother died never having learned to speak turkish at all. My mother soon learned Greek when she met my father so don't paint them with your ugly thoughts.


My thoughts are my own because I have decided to educate myself by reading many reports on the subject and you seem to forget that as I was growing up this whole ugly mess was happening and was being reported. You may be too young to remember the news reports that were being transmitted at the time but I was not. Try reading some real newspaper reports from the time and you will see what the world thought about Makarios as he was doing what he was doing in real time. Just because your education system decided to teach you a load of half-truths does not mean others were.

[BirKibrisli]

What does he know of Makarios and all that stuff then?
He knows nothing. All he knows is what his fanatic Turkish Nationalist parents told him, and they turned him to be their exact image.

Isn't that what we all do,Pyro?
We imbibe things from our parents untill we are old enough and mature enough to make up our own minds.
I guess Zan knows about Makarios what he was told and what he has since found out for himself.Makarios was a brilliant politician and a Greek nationalist.A pity he was President of Cyprus instead of Greece...
I am not blaming him though. I think he was a product of his times,and had very little choice in what he did. He had to walk a very fine line and when he finally discovered his Cypriotness it was too late to rescue his country from the Greek and Turkish juntas... He was no saint however.

[zan]

What I am doing here is trying to talk to guys like yourself who are convinced that you are right and all Turks are bad. Your rhetoric is witness to that. You guys cannot conduct a civil conversation without resorting to half truths but you expect me and others to sit back and listen to you bad mouthing people that have suffered for a long time due to the incompetent actions of your beloved Makarios who was given the power to make Cyprus a heaven on earth. If you don't like hearing the truth about what happened in Cyprus and what is likely to happen then don't tune in because I am going nowhere. I truly feel guilt when I have to argue with you guys rather than talk and come to a sensible conclusion but it is soon put aside when I hear the way you talk about us. The realities are the here and now not what you guys dream about whilst masturbating about how many millions you will get and how much you will stuff it to the Turkish people. When you realise the hate you have in you and stop pretending that you are reasonable people then we might get somewhere. That comment does not apply to ALL GCs but to those I have experienced on this forum and others that completely ignore the fact that I and my requirements exist.


Anyway end of statement resumption of talks.....hahahahahaha! What a joke.


Kifeas
I have told you before it does your IQ no good to keep telling me that you are not speaking to me. It will not stop me on correcting your lies though so dream on.

Speak as much as you like. The more you speak the sooner you will be exposed. So far you were kind of masturbating quietly in here. Come on boy let's see your true face the soonest possible.

It is meant to be a private thing but you choose to do yours in public. You obviously do not need any more exposing.

[zan]

What does he know of Makarios and all that stuff then?
He knows nothing. All he knows is what his fanatic Turkish Nationalist parents told him, and they turned him to be their exact image.

Isn't that what we all do,Pyro?
We imbibe things from our parents untill we are old enough and mature enough to make up our own minds.
I guess Zan knows about Makarios what he was told and what he has since found out for himself.Makarios was a brilliant politician and a Greek nationalist.A pity he was President of Cyprus instead of Greece...
I am not blaming him though. I think he was a product of his times,and had very little choice in what he did. He had to walk a very fine line and when he finally discovered his Cypriotness it was too late to rescue his country from the Greek and Turkish juntas... He was no saint however.

Bir it is good to hear a friendly voice in here.