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[miltiades]

VP , will you now put to rest the myth of T/Cs in fear of their lives by the G/Cs since clearly you have avoided concurring with my statement that not a single T/C was killed by G/Cs 5 years prior to Turkish invasion. There are on this forum many non-Cypriots who need to know your answer too. Are you too embarrassed to admit the truth and that your philosophy that we can not live together is a mere falcy. If you will answer please be specific .
5 YEARS PRIOR TO JULY 1974 .
There are participants on this forum that have been influenced by propaganda and it will come as a surprise to know that the truth is a big NONE WERE KILLED .

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VP , will you now put to rest the myth of T/Cs in fear of their lives by the G/Cs since clearly you have avoided concurring with my statement that not a single T/C was killed by G/Cs 5 years prior to Turkish invasion. There are on this forum many non-Cypriots who need to know your answer too. Are you too embarrassed to admit the truth and that your philosophy that we can not live together is a mere falcy. If you will answer please be specific .
5 YEARS PRIOR TO JULY 1974 .
There are participants on this forum that have been influenced by propaganda and it will come as a surprise to know that the truth is a big NONE WERE KILLED .

But you are looking at 1 tree and not seeing the forest, just basing your whole argument on deaths is not correct, the majority of deaths occurred in 1963-64-67 and spa radically after that. You have to take into account that 50% of the TC were made refugees and 18% of the population was living in 3% of the land, they were out of government and living under very dire conditions. Yet again isolated and discriminated against, very vulnerable to GCs attack and manipulation, it was the build up of all these elements and the fact of not agreeing the way forward coupled with the burning desire of Gcs for enosis that led to the coup which was the last straw leading to Turkeys intervention.

So lets turn the tables have we not all lived in peace since 1974? maybe division is the best and only solution for us Cypriots. The last 33 years are evidence of that, do you agree? the time prior to 1974 was living hell for most Tc's we do not want to go back to those times in any shape or form, that's why we are so adamant on measure that will ensure all aspects of our future.

[Pyrpolizer]

VP , will you now put to rest the myth of T/Cs in fear of their lives by the G/Cs since clearly you have avoided concurring with my statement that not a single T/C was killed by G/Cs 5 years prior to Turkish invasion. There are on this forum many non-Cypriots who need to know your answer too. Are you too embarrassed to admit the truth and that your philosophy that we can not live together is a mere falcy. If you will answer please be specific .
5 YEARS PRIOR TO JULY 1974 .
There are participants on this forum that have been influenced by propaganda and it will come as a surprise to know that the truth is a big NONE WERE KILLED .

But you are looking at 1 tree and not seeing the forest, just basing your whole argument on deaths is not correct, the majority of deaths occurred in 1963-64-67 and spa radically after that. You have to take into account that 50% of the TC were made refugees and 18% of the population was living in 3% of the land, they were out of government and living under very dire conditions. Yet again isolated and discriminated against, very vulnerable to GCs attack and manipulation, it was the build up of all these elements and the fact of not agreeing the way forward coupled with the burning desire of Gcs for enosis that led to the coup which was the last straw leading to Turkeys intervention.

So lets turn the tables have we not all lived in peace since 1974? maybe division is the best and only solution for us Cypriots. The last 33 years are evidence of that, do you agree? the time prior to 1974 was living hell for most Tc's we do not want to go back to those times in any shape or form, that's why we are so adamant on measure that will ensure all aspects of our future.

Let me explain this "peace" fallacy you have in your brain in a scientific way: You have a big rock hanging from a string on top of a 10 storie building. It is at rest isn't it?It is in a state of "peace" isn't it?

Now do you know how much it takes to fall down on your head?

Do you understand that rock has what science calls "a potential"? Do you understand the rock will never be in "peace" unless it falls down?

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VP , will you now put to rest the myth of T/Cs in fear of their lives by the G/Cs since clearly you have avoided concurring with my statement that not a single T/C was killed by G/Cs 5 years prior to Turkish invasion. There are on this forum many non-Cypriots who need to know your answer too. Are you too embarrassed to admit the truth and that your philosophy that we can not live together is a mere falcy. If you will answer please be specific .
5 YEARS PRIOR TO JULY 1974 .
There are participants on this forum that have been influenced by propaganda and it will come as a surprise to know that the truth is a big NONE WERE KILLED .

But you are looking at 1 tree and not seeing the forest, just basing your whole argument on deaths is not correct, the majority of deaths occurred in 1963-64-67 and spa radically after that. You have to take into account that 50% of the TC were made refugees and 18% of the population was living in 3% of the land, they were out of government and living under very dire conditions. Yet again isolated and discriminated against, very vulnerable to GCs attack and manipulation, it was the build up of all these elements and the fact of not agreeing the way forward coupled with the burning desire of Gcs for enosis that led to the coup which was the last straw leading to Turkeys intervention.

So lets turn the tables have we not all lived in peace since 1974? maybe division is the best and only solution for us Cypriots. The last 33 years are evidence of that, do you agree? the time prior to 1974 was living hell for most Tc's we do not want to go back to those times in any shape or form, that's why we are so adamant on measure that will ensure all aspects of our future.

Let me explain this "peace" fallacy you have in your brain in a scientific way: You have a big rock hanging from a string on top of a 10 storie building. It is at rest isn't it?It is in a state of "peace" isn't it?

Now do you know how much it takes to fall down on your head?

Do you understand that rock has what science calls "a potential"? Do you understand the rock will never be in "peace" unless it falls down?

Very scientific

[Pyrpolizer]

Sure! No Denktash can violate the laws of physics by calling "peace" a state of potential.

[Kikapu]

Let me explain this "peace" fallacy you have in your brain in a scientific way: You have a big rock hanging from a string on top of a 10 storie building. It is at rest isn't it?It is in a state of "peace" isn't it?

Now do you know how much it takes to fall down on your head?

Do you understand that rock has what science calls "a potential"? Do you understand the rock will never be in "peace" unless it falls down?

That is a very interesting.....hhmmm.......not sure what to call it really.!!

Anyway, if the ROCK is a "potential", then the STRING that's holding it, must be a "decider" ( using Bush's grammar). "Decider" will decide when the "potential" is no longer in state of "peace".

So, who controls the STRING.???

[Pyrpolizer]

Whoever Kikapu.
The fact is we don't have a state of peace but a state of potential. Who controls and who doesn't control is not the issue.

Now to translate this to real world terms, what we have today in Cyprus is not "peace" but a potential for war.

Have you read Ernest Heminway novel "A farewell to arms"? If yes this is the condition we have today not "peace".

[Kikapu]

Whoever Kikapu.
The fact is we don't have a state of peace but a state of potential. Who controls and who doesn't control is not the issue.

Now to translate this to real world terms, what we have today in Cyprus is not "peace" but a potential for war.

Have you read Ernest Heminway novel "A farewell to arms"? If yes this is the condition we have today not "peace".

I was hoping you would say "gravity" controls the STRING.

"Gravity" will eventually force the "decider" to decide what the "potential" will do with it's state of "peace".

Since we cannot control "gravity" then the "gravity will control us.

The question is, when.???

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Whoever Kikapu.
The fact is we don't have a state of peace but a state of potential. Who controls and who doesn't control is not the issue.

Now to translate this to real world terms, what we have today in Cyprus is not "peace" but a potential for war.

Have you read Ernest Heminway novel "A farewell to arms"? If yes this is the condition we have today not "peace".

Rather the peace of today than the peace of pre 1974

[Pyrpolizer]

Especially when that "peace" also means grabbing someone elses homes and lands so the better. Enjoy your "peace" then for as long as it lasts.