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Postby Piratis » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:06 pm

anamariab wrote:Hi! If i were you I will not complain. Here these people work very hard just for few pounds per day which comprising more than 8 hours/day. In their country are highly educated but leave their jobs since are not well paid and come here to do a very low job such as: cleaning, waitress and so on. Jobs that most of you are not doing, not only because of the job but because of the money.
They endure a lot of staying here. I have seen a lot. Most of foreign people are complaining about same things. You don't give a chance to us. You treat us as prostitutes, low level people just because of the others that came here before to make prostitution, stealing etc.
This is happening only here. We don't steal your jobs, because nobody hire us. It is very difficult to find a more decent job. And I am agree to keep the level of employment to Cypriots. This is a rule applied in each country. But why do you think we take your jobs? Are you earning less than 400-500 pounds? Are you working as waiter, electrician..? I don't think so. :wink:
Read on the internet, a very young woman (30 yo) died few weeks ago because she worked very hard and did not feed herself enough. I could give you a lot of such stories. :roll:


Those are the effects of capitalism and globalization.

Essentially the capitalists have created a global market of supply. By opening the western markets to the developing world, either by allowing workers to come in, or by moving their factories abroad, they have in effect increased the supply of employees, which directly translates to lower salaries (if there are 10 positions and 100 candidates it is natural that many of them will accept lower salary in order to take the job).

Those that are harmed by this are not the people of the developing world, since as you said in their own countries they would gain even less, but the people of the developed world who now have to compete in a job market with a lot more supply of employees.

This means that the very poor will get slightly richer, while the middle class will get poorer and the rich will get a lot richer.
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Postby EPSILON » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:12 pm

Piratis wrote:
anamariab wrote:Hi! If i were you I will not complain. Here these people work very hard just for few pounds per day which comprising more than 8 hours/day. In their country are highly educated but leave their jobs since are not well paid and come here to do a very low job such as: cleaning, waitress and so on. Jobs that most of you are not doing, not only because of the job but because of the money.
They endure a lot of staying here. I have seen a lot. Most of foreign people are complaining about same things. You don't give a chance to us. You treat us as prostitutes, low level people just because of the others that came here before to make prostitution, stealing etc.
This is happening only here. We don't steal your jobs, because nobody hire us. It is very difficult to find a more decent job. And I am agree to keep the level of employment to Cypriots. This is a rule applied in each country. But why do you think we take your jobs? Are you earning less than 400-500 pounds? Are you working as waiter, electrician..? I don't think so. :wink:
Read on the internet, a very young woman (30 yo) died few weeks ago because she worked very hard and did not feed herself enough. I could give you a lot of such stories. :roll:


Those are the effects of capitalism and globalization.

Essentially the capitalists have created a global market of supply. By opening the western markets to the developing world, either by allowing workers to come in, or by moving their factories abroad, they have in effect increased the supply of employees, which directly translates to lower salaries (if there are 10 positions and 100 candidates it is natural that many of them will accept lower salary in order to take the job).

Those that are harmed by this are not the people of the developing world, since as you said in their own countries they would gain even less, but the people of the developed world who now have to compete in a job market with a lot more supply of employees.

This means that the very poor will get slightly richer, while the middle class will get poorer and the rich will get a lot richer.


Actual facts/exaple: When Albanians financial refugees started to come in Greece for work everybody here were shouting that Greeks loosing their jobs against the cheaper Albanian workers etc etc. 15 years later was proved that if these Albanians (about 1million) were not in Greece its Social security fund as well as the agriculture would be collapsed.

Today these Albanians became part of the Greek society and the most of them have also a good standard of life
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Postby karma » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:55 pm

EPSILON wrote:
Piratis wrote:
anamariab wrote:Hi! If i were you I will not complain. Here these people work very hard just for few pounds per day which comprising more than 8 hours/day. In their country are highly educated but leave their jobs since are not well paid and come here to do a very low job such as: cleaning, waitress and so on. Jobs that most of you are not doing, not only because of the job but because of the money.
They endure a lot of staying here. I have seen a lot. Most of foreign people are complaining about same things. You don't give a chance to us. You treat us as prostitutes, low level people just because of the others that came here before to make prostitution, stealing etc.
This is happening only here. We don't steal your jobs, because nobody hire us. It is very difficult to find a more decent job. And I am agree to keep the level of employment to Cypriots. This is a rule applied in each country. But why do you think we take your jobs? Are you earning less than 400-500 pounds? Are you working as waiter, electrician..? I don't think so. :wink:
Read on the internet, a very young woman (30 yo) died few weeks ago because she worked very hard and did not feed herself enough. I could give you a lot of such stories. :roll:


Those are the effects of capitalism and globalization.

Essentially the capitalists have created a global market of supply. By opening the western markets to the developing world, either by allowing workers to come in, or by moving their factories abroad, they have in effect increased the supply of employees, which directly translates to lower salaries (if there are 10 positions and 100 candidates it is natural that many of them will accept lower salary in order to take the job).

Those that are harmed by this are not the people of the developing world, since as you said in their own countries they would gain even less, but the people of the developed world who now have to compete in a job market with a lot more supply of employees.

This means that the very poor will get slightly richer, while the middle class will get poorer and the rich will get a lot richer.


Actual facts/exaple: When Albanians financial refugees started to come in Greece for work everybody here were shouting that Greeks loosing their jobs against the cheaper Albanian workers etc etc. 15 years later was proved that if these Albanians (about 1million) were not in Greece its Social security fund as well as the agriculture would be collapsed.

Today these Albanians became part of the Greek society and the most of them have also a good standard of life


But they are being treated as second class people, and the word ''albanian'' means thief in modern Greek language :?
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