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[icefist]

Did they accept to de-mine the area?

its already had been demined, how do u think they were building a bridge there?

[Kifeas]

So, you are basically saying that we should close all the crossing points, because all have flags and soldiers (you forgot the pseudo police). You are an unbelievable fool Pyrpolyser.

Bananiot, have you and your friends (GCs and TCs alike) also demonstrated and hailed slogans in favor of the non-existence of check-points, signs and flags symbolizing the existence of a boarder between two separate “nation-states,” as the Turkish Cypriot side aims to achieve with the opening of the Ledras street; or you have only hailed slogans in favor of demolishing the banker/wall that symbolizes the occupation of our country in the eyes of the thousands of tourists visiting the area?

What was the purpose of your today’s demonstration? Was it to replace the symbols and markings of the occupation and division of Nicosia and Cyprus (banker-wall,) with the symbols and markings of the so-called existence of a borderline between two “legitimately” separate territories –the “Greek south” and the “Turkish north” as your friend Mr. Annan had referred to them, and so that this idea is consolidated in the minds of the international community?

[Pyrpolizer]

Did they accept to de-mine the area?

its already had been demined, how do u think they were building a bridge there?

So in your opinion there is no problem whatsoever?
Propably Unficyp officials must be crazy or something:

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UNFICYP spokesman Brian Kelly confirmed the UN had spoken to the two sides and was working with them to reach an agreement.

"We are consulting with both sides on the issues that have to be addressed in order to open the crossing," he said.

He added that UNFICYP had already informed both sides of the safety issues and the work needed on derelict buildings inside the Green Line that could pose a danger to pedestrians.

Discussions have not yet reached the thorny issues of disengagement of military forces and the removal of provocative signs and symbols, as demanded by the Greek Cypriot side.

[Bananiot]

One more opening will not make any difference. However, this particular one is very symbolic. The barrier has been there since the 50's. Its demolition will also be symbolic. It could herald a new era, where genuine steps are taken for the reunification of Cyprus, especially if we also get rid of the foolish nationalist-rejectionist bunch of apprentices that runs the country at the moment.

[Pyrpolizer]

So if it is symbolic, then it's opening should also become symbolic and made the proper way. NO MILITARY AROUND, NO PSEUDO FLAGS.

[zan]

Did they accept to de-mine the area?

its already had been demined, how do u think they were building a bridge there?

Carefully!:lol:

[miltiades]

It is such a shame that two brilliant mind Cypriots like Kifeas and Bananiot have to resort to insults . You have opposing views but Im certain that both are influnced by your beliefs in a just and lasting solution of the Cyprus problem.
I think when the two of you met for dinner , one of you walked out with out sharing the bill creating this animosity as a result !
Can you remember what you had for dinner Kifeas !

[zan]

One more opening will not make any difference. However, this particular one is very symbolic. The barrier has been there since the 50's. Its demolition will also be symbolic. It could herald a new era, where genuine steps are taken for the reunification of Cyprus, especially if we also get rid of the foolish nationalist-rejectionist bunch of apprentices that runs the country at the moment.

Banana, you are like the lying shepherd! You have made so many false wolf-alarms that when real wolves will be around, no one will believe you! This in itself shows your stupidity!

Are you saying that we have worse wolves to come?

[reportfromcyprus]

So, you are basically saying that we should close all the crossing points, because all have flags and soldiers (you forgot the pseudo police). You are an unbelievable fool Pyrpolyser.

Bananiot, have you and your friends (GCs and TCs alike) also demonstrated and hailed slogans in favor of the non-existence of check-points, signs and flags symbolizing the existence of a boarder between two separate “nation-states,” as the Turkish Cypriot side aims to achieve with the opening of the Ledras street; or you have only hailed slogans in favor of demolishing the banker/wall that symbolizes the occupation of our country in the eyes of the thousands of tourists visiting the area?

What was the purpose of your today’s demonstration? Was it to replace the symbols and markings of the occupation and division of Nicosia and Cyprus (banker-wall,) with the symbols and markings of the so-called existence of a borderline between two “legitimately” separate territories –the “Greek south” and the “Turkish north” as your friend Mr. Annan had referred to them, and so that this idea is consolidated in the minds of the international community?

Time for a reality check: 40,000 Turkish troops in the north, the British army, the Greek army, the Greek-Cypriot national guard, the UN...there are armed forces everywhere on this island.

Is there really an argument to be made for keeping a symbolic wall? What is going to keep troops out if they decide to move? A wall? Oh please.

Get real. Only good relations with our neighbors and allies will prevent military action, and so far, I don't see our government contributing towards that end.

[Bananiot]

Miltiades, I insulted no one. I merely responded to incessant name calling, albeit at a very late hour. Should have done so earlier.

The continuing saga of Ledra has shown the impotence and stupidity of our government. At first they told us that the proclaimed intent of Talat to knock it down was empty words because Ankara would never consent. Then, they explained that the other side was engaged in communication tricks. After the bridge came down the same people told us that it was no big deal because it was illegal anyway.

The opening of Ledra Street will enhance the communication possibilities of the two communities. From this point of view the more openings the better. When people from the two communities come together, the lies and superstitions spread by the sick nationalists of the two communities crumple like paper castles. People realise that we are the same and that there are real possibilities to live together in peace and prosper together. We must insist for the opening of as many points as possible. Talat was brave enough to put his job on the line by threatening to resign if the bridge was not knocked down. He should be congratulated for this.

I said earlier that the government was impotent and stupid. May be not so. May be they do not want the opening of more points. May be the possibility of finding a solution scares them. Yiorgagism rules our lives and our country is running a fatal risk, just like in the early 60’s. Only now the situation is desparare, as AKEL is lending a helping hand to the most rejectionist forces in Cyprus.