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[BirKibrisli]

The latest online from the TC press is that the demolishing of the bloody thing will commence today. This was announced by Talat's spokesperson apparently. So obviously the Military was convinced somehow that Talat had eaten enough humble pie,and can be allowed to pull down the bridge that he built in the first place...But this doesn't mean it will happen...Watch this space.

What will you think of Talat if he has that bridge down by the end of the week?

Not much...The president of an independent country should not have to go to a foreign capital and try to convince the Military there to allow him to make a political decision in his own country...Seize fire or no seize fire...

I'd have respected him had he picked up a tool,got his government members and MPs beside him, and went to dismantle the bridge himself,challenging the military to arrest him.

The bridge will come down,but it is too late mate...Everyone knows now who really calls the shots in the TRNC.

He has to move in accordance with his only ally Turkey, why not ask the same of Tasoss? when will he go and knock down the wall with Christofiyas? and his other cronies. The wall and bridge are not the only obstacles, the mindset of both sides just goes to show that we cannot even open a crossing together let alone run a country. Can you imagine the chaos if Maras was ever handed back, all hell would break loose.

What can I say? you are absolutely right,Viewpoint.
In this little incident lies the reason why Cypro will never be solved in our lifetime. The opposition in the TRNC is only interested in scoring political points.What do you expect Tpap to do? Come to the aid of an imaginary President of an imaginary country? TRNC and Talat does not exist,they are figments of our collective imagination

Reminds me of a nonsense limeric:

As I was going down the stair
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
Oh how I wish he'd go away!

[zan]

The latest online from the TC press is that the demolishing of the bloody thing will commence today. This was announced by Talat's spokesperson apparently. So obviously the Military was convinced somehow that Talat had eaten enough humble pie,and can be allowed to pull down the bridge that he built in the first place...But this doesn't mean it will happen...Watch this space.

What will you think of Talat if he has that bridge down by the end of the week?

Not much...The president of an independent country should not have to go to a foreign capital and try to convince the Military there to allow him to make a political decision in his own country...Seize fire or no seize fire...

I'd have respected him had he picked up a tool,got his government members and MPs beside him, and went to dismantle the bridge himself,challenging the military to arrest him.

The bridge will come down,but it is too late mate...Everyone knows now who really calls the shots in the TRNC.

He has to move in accordance with his only ally Turkey, why not ask the same of Tasoss? when will he go and knock down the wall with Christofiyas? and his other cronies. The wall and bridge are not the only obstacles, the mindset of both sides just goes to show that we cannot even open a crossing together let alone run a country. Can you imagine the chaos if Maras was ever handed back, all hell would break loose.

What can I say? you are absolutely right,Viewpoint.
In this little incident lies the reason why Cypro will never be solved in our lifetime. The opposition in the TRNC is only interested in scoring political points.What do you expect Tpap to do? Come to the aid of an imaginary President of an imaginary country? TRNC and Talat does not exist,they are figments of our collective imagination

Reminds me of a nonsense limeric:

As I was going down the stair
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
Oh how I wish he'd go away!

It does make me wonder what your motives are sometimes Bir With one hand you use the fire extinguisher but with the other you fan the fire. Whatever part of you it is that hates the Turks seems to take everything away from your passive stance is this whole affair. We the real TCs of the KKTC are there and are fighting our corner, for you to say we do not exist is about as hurtful as it gets. You are asking me to bury my ancestors for the status of second class citizenship in Cyprus and you expect me to agree with you, dream on. Sorry mate but you are out of order.

[miltiades]

ZAN WROTE IN RESPONSE TO BIRKIBRISLI.

""""We the real TCs of the KKTC are there and are fighting our corner, for you to say we do not exist is about as hurtful as it gets. You are asking me to bury my ancestors for the status of second class citizenship in Cyprus and you expect me to agree with you, dream on. Sorry mate but you are out of order.""""

Zan he never asked you , or indeed NOW ONE asked you to become a second class citizen in Cyprus. Not Bir , not Kifeas , Not Piratis , Not Bananiot , in fact noo ne ever asked that of you. You have created the myth supported by the VPs of Cyprus and by perpetuating the myth it has to you and VP become a reality which is no more than a figment of your imagination. The T/Cs are no more second class citizens in their country than the British Cypriots who also have this chip on their shoulder ready to shout "discrimination " when something doesn't go their way.

[BirKibrisli]

It does make me wonder what your motives are sometimes Bir With one hand you use the fire extinguisher but with the other you fan the fire. Whatever part of you it is that hates the Turks seems to take everything away from your passive stance is this whole affair. We the real TCs of the KKTC are there and are fighting our corner, for you to say we do not exist is about as hurtful as it gets. You are asking me to bury my ancestors for the status of second class citizenship in Cyprus and you expect me to agree with you, dream on. Sorry mate but you are out of order.

Sorry,mate,but you got the wrong end of the stick. My irony and limeric were aimed at Tpapa and not Talat. I even used a wink to signal my intentions.

My motives are simple. I want a solution in a near future which will make TCs equal citizens in their own country. I want TPapa to stop playing this "TRNC does not exist" game,because it is driving the TCs to cultural extinction via assimilation with the settlers. I wish that Tpapa would invite the TCs to return to the Republic not as second class citizens,but as privileged citizens under the 1960 constitution.With the understanding that when the time is right and when trust and understanging are established between the communities,we can sit down and negotiate a truly democratic state that will be an example of harmony and tolerance to an increasingly bitter and divided world...

I am disgusted with the way the opposition politicians in the North are trying to score political points off Talat,instead of helping him change the constitution which will make the TCs master of their own destiny,and not subjects of the Turkish military...

What are you on today,mate?Biscuits,chocolate,wine,or something stronger???

[humanist]

Birk said

I wish that Tpapa would invite the TCs to return to the Republic not as second class citizens,but as privileged citizens under the 1960 constitution.With the understanding that when the time is right and when trust and understanging are established between the communities,we can sit down and negotiate a truly democratic state that will be an example of harmony and tolerance to an increasingly bitter and divided world... "

I second this. This will certainly lead to a fair and just solution for all Cypriots.

[zan]

It does make me wonder what your motives are sometimes Bir With one hand you use the fire extinguisher but with the other you fan the fire. Whatever part of you it is that hates the Turks seems to take everything away from your passive stance is this whole affair. We the real TCs of the KKTC are there and are fighting our corner, for you to say we do not exist is about as hurtful as it gets. You are asking me to bury my ancestors for the status of second class citizenship in Cyprus and you expect me to agree with you, dream on. Sorry mate but you are out of order.

Sorry,mate,but you got the wrong end of the stick. My irony and limeric were aimed at Tpapa and not Talat. I even used a wink to signal my intentions.

My motives are simple. I want a solution in a near future which will make TCs equal citizens in their own country. I want TPapa to stop playing this "TRNC does not exist" game,because it is driving the TCs to cultural extinction via assimilation with the settlers. I wish that Tpapa would invite the TCs to return to the Republic not as second class citizens,but as privileged citizens under the 1960 constitution.With the understanding that when the time is right and when trust and understanging are established between the communities,we can sit down and negotiate a truly democratic state that will be an example of harmony and tolerance to an increasingly bitter and divided world...

I am disgusted with the way the opposition politicians in the North are trying to score political points off Talat,instead of helping him change the constitution which will make the TCs master of their own destiny,and not subjects of the Turkish military...

What are you on today,mate?Biscuits,chocolate,wine,or something stronger???

Bad nights sleep!

Sorry mate completely misread your post and I retract what I said as far as your motives go.

[zan]

ZAN WROTE IN RESPONSE TO BIRKIBRISLI.

""""We the real TCs of the KKTC are there and are fighting our corner, for you to say we do not exist is about as hurtful as it gets. You are asking me to bury my ancestors for the status of second class citizenship in Cyprus and you expect me to agree with you, dream on. Sorry mate but you are out of order.""""

Zan he never asked you , or indeed NOW ONE asked you to become a second class citizen in Cyprus. Not Bir , not Kifeas , Not Piratis , Not Bananiot , in fact noo ne ever asked that of you. You have created the myth supported by the VPs of Cyprus and by perpetuating the myth it has to you and VP become a reality which is no more than a figment of your imagination. The T/Cs are no more second class citizens in their country than the British Cypriots who also have this chip on their shoulder ready to shout "discrimination " when something doesn't go their way.

Did you read my account on South Africa? Just by giving someone an equal status politically does not mean the be all and end all of the problem. It is a well known fact that not only is the GC economy far better than the KKTC but each and every GC is worth five times more than the GC equivalent, in financial terms. With out first finding a way to correct this then there is no equality. Now if you want to dispute this and get into why we have been left behind, I think we need to start again and my disappointment will be clearly visible in knowing that you guys have listened to nothing we have said. As for things not going our way, you are the first person to throw his toys out of the pram if anyone has an opposing view to your unification. You want equality then let me have my say without the abuse.

[Viewpoint]

Lokmaci bridge is falling down falling down




What the TCs want they get, never under estimate us, you should take note and try to encourage us to believe you and work with to make changes.

Well done Mr Mehmet Ali Talat our President.

[BirKibrisli]

Lokmaci bridge is falling down falling down




What the TCs want they get, never under estimate us, you should take note and try to encourage us to believe you and work with to make changes.

Great news,Viewpoint...We can all breath a sigh of relief.
I wonder how long it will take for the actual crossing to open.
Do you think the Military would agree to remove the Turkish soldiers from the vicinity?

[Viewpoint]

Lokmaci bridge is falling down falling down




What the TCs want they get, never under estimate us, you should take note and try to encourage us to believe you and work with to make changes.

Great news,Viewpoint...We can all breath a sigh of relief.
I wonder how long it will take for the actual crossing to open.
Do you think the Military would agree to remove the Turkish soldiers from the vicinity?

The stumbling block will be the ex eoka guy, you watch how things unfold, Talat has shown great leadership and taken the first step, you watch the gc side demonize everything we do and turn it on its head just so they do not have to knock down the wall. Lets see what Tassos is made of.