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Postby Piratis » Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:48 pm

Mehmet, the occupation regime is full of marketing PR and things that would benefit TCs but not GCs. Except if consider setting up a "commission" in an effort to buy our homeland and give validity to themselves as something that would help GCs. No, they are doing this to help themselves and you know it very well. Same thing with the opening of the crossings. (and why do you want to take credit for that? Didn't we also open the crossings - something that benefited the TCs mostly?)

Regarding "European political support for PapaD is waning given how he has locked Turkey's accession to Cyprus with ongoing threat of veto." this couldn't be more untrue. It is in fact the opposite as most countries are glad that Cyprus is there to delay Turkey and possibly block Turkey so they will not have to do it themselves. (most countries = most leaderships. Because if we are talking about the people then it is all countries).

I think you read/listen too much UK/US media.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:29 pm

Rude Gal wrote:
cypezokyli wrote:dont know what it will take to listene to tpap speaking in turkish :lol:
Ha ha! That really would be a moment to savour and a great PR story. Bring it on!!


This is an ex eoka man who has taken an oath to hate and anniahilate anything Turkish he would die first before learning and speaking Turkish.
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Postby mehmet » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:37 pm

Piratis,

occupation regime is full of marketing PR and things that would benefit TCs but not GCs.


Sure, it's a game and you are now saying that RoC should play also.

most countries are glad that Cyprus is there to delay Turkey and possibly block Turkey so they will not have to do it themselves


You continue to overestimate the position of Cyprus. The European are using you as an excuse, when push comes to shove they will leave you isolated because they have more to gain from Turkey being in than out.

I don't read any US media, but I do read UK as I live here, but I also read other sources as well and Papadopoulos is making a big mistake if he thinks anyone will lift a finger on his behalf.
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Postby Rude Gal » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:51 pm

I agree with Mehmet. Before Cyprus entered the EU, most leaders and people thought Cyprus problem was between GCs and Turkey, with TCs never getting a look-in (for me, a carefully cultivated form of GC PR/propaganda over last 30 years). The Annan Plan referenda put TCs on the map and ongoing issue of EU dealing with this "anomaly" on its Eastern flank, coupled with EU-Turkey-RoC issues means TCs getting far more press and EU political interest.

It's great! For first time in years people are taking a far closer look at Cyprus instead of buying all the crap the various sides spew and it is not looking so pretty for PapaD because of it.

Yes, re: Turkey, EU happy to follow PapaD's lead (he does their dirty work) but there is now a clear delineation between attitude towards Turkey re: accession/relations with RoC and situation of TCs. Already Talat & co having direct dealings with far greater no.s of politicians within EU; that's going to grow. In last few months, French and Austrian mainstream media are writing more accurate articles on Cyprus issue that shows awareness of issues affecting TC side.

More PapaD resists, worse he looks (the new Denktas for the South; a hard negative image to shake-off!).
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Postby Rude Gal » Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:05 pm

Oh the supreme irony of it all. Just came off this site, checked another and came across this hilarious image of Denktash & PapaD (both accused of being guilty of Peace crimes), which really summed up far back PapaD image is. Check out image on this site (scroll down page).

http://www.kibrisligenclikplatformu.net/kibrisligenclik.htm

It's from the Cyprus Youth Magazine (one of groups involved in the United Cyprus Platform).
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Postby Issy1956 » Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:40 am

Piratis,
Excellent post with some good ideas-definitely moves in the right direction. I hope Tpap is listening. Can I also suggest that the ROC initiates the necessaruy moves to make Turkish and official language of the EU. It is after all supposed to be an official language of Cyprus so why didnt the ROC as the "governement of all of the Cypriot peope" who are supposed to be looking after the interests of the TC's insist on making it an official language at the time of joining the EU. Also think of the PR value of Cyprus being responsibel for making Turkish an EU language. You could not only hijack their cuisine (Baklava) but their language as well.
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Postby Rude Gal » Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:41 am

The Greeks trademarking Turkish, mmn, a bit too wild for even my imagination - it would be the marketing coup of the century!!!!!!!!!! But hey, if they tried to claim Fezes & baklava, anything's possible!!
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:50 pm

Rude Gal wrote: It's great! For first time in years people are taking a far closer look at Cyprus….


Great alright! We received all that greatness for 30+ years, and what did we get out of it? Tens of UN resolutions good for our toilet needs.

Rude Gal wrote: Oh the supreme irony of it all. Just came off this site, checked another and came across this hilarious image of Denktash & PapaD (both accused of being guilty of Peace crimes), which really summed up far back PapaD image is. Check out image on this site (scroll down page).


The images are faque, but would you care define your term "peace crime"? I heard of war crimes in the past….but really never heard of peace crimes :razz:

Issy1956 wrote: It is after all supposed to be an official language of Cyprus so why didnt the ROC as the "governement of all of the Cypriot peope" who are supposed to be looking after the interests of the TC's insist on making it an official language at the time of joining the EU.


Technically Turkish is an official language already.All official languages of member states become official languages of EU automatically upon accession. It seems you mixed up the terms official language with working language.The working languages in the EU are only 5 (if I remember correctly).


@ Piratis

Marketing or no marketing, it has absolutely no effect in solving the Cyprob.It is just good to receive some applauses and then forgotten.
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:00 pm

I think all the TC's should be allowed to vote in the next elections in the RoC. They are afterall Cypriots, and a member of EU. This would help GC's to get rid of PappaD, and bring in someone that is fresh and new.!
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:05 pm

Good point Kikapu, but then we wil be accused that we changed the constitution unilatterally.

Do you know its been 32+years we suffer from that as we cannot even change the criminal law? It's been almost 5 years the police said they are totally incapable of arresting heroin merchants although they know who they are, simply because the constitution does not allow them the use of modern technology as evidence at court. There were countless debates in the parliament that if we even change just one single clause in the constitution without the approval of the Tcs then RoC will lose its legality, moreover everyone can take the new law at the Supreme court and declare it illegal.
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