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[Bananiot]

Spot on Issy. Furthermore, the people there are among the nicest I have ever met, be they Turks or Greeks. Cypriots above all (except Sillouris).

[Kifeas]

This Niazi speaks Greek like a mainland Greek, I mean so fast I can hardly follow him. Did he live in Greece? That would be very strange for a TC...

Pyrpolyser, either your Greek is so poor that you find Niyazi Kizilyurek’s Greek to be fluent, or you confuse him with someone else.

For the record, Niyazi Kizilyurek is a fervent supporter of the immoral, illegitimate and illegal partitionist Annan plan, the plan that attempted to formally and institutionally split Cyprus into two ethnically owned and based “nation states,” and gave the 29% of Cyprus to the complete ownership of the Turkish Cypriot community alone; attempting in this way to eradicate once and for ever all the existencial, historical and cultural rights that the Greek Cypriots have in that part of their country, which they used to inhabit by majority for over 3,500 years, and attempting to legalize all the illegitimate and illegal fait accomplices of the illegal Turkish invasion and occupation.

Anyone Greek Cypriot that doesn’t see the above facts in the Annan plan is either a fool or a naïve person or a liar or someone that has not read the plan himself, or a traitor! Make your choice!

[Bananiot]

Thus, one hundred thousand Greek Cypriots fall into one of Kifeas's categories. He is a true voice of his master. Only, Papadopoulos said that we were all traitors; he did not have the courtesy to declare some of us crazy or at least naive.

[miltiades]

Kifeas , I do not for one minute consider the thousands of Cypriots who voted Yes to the plan as anything remotely close to what you refer to as " traitors". My opposition to the AP is well posted but to categorise the thousands upon thousands who exercised their democratic right and voted different from you and I as traitors or fools is gross category error.
There are many issues when a fine line exists between right and wrong but in this instance the question is not who was right and wrong but it is whether you respect the right of your fellow voters to adopt an opposing view to yours and mine , because to disregard such a right is an insult to the democratic principles that underpin our society.
In a previous post ( I did not vote being away fron Cyprus ) I refered to the AP plan as the ultimate anathema for our nation , I stand by that but have the utmost respect for all those who felt different .

[Kifeas]

Thus, one hundred thousand Greek Cypriots fall into one of Kifeas's categories. He is a true voice of his master. Only, Papadopoulos said that we were all traitors; he did not have the courtesy to declare some of us crazy or at least naive.

For the record, Papadopoulos has never said that anyone who voted for the Annan plan is a traitor. The fact remains though that some of them -a tiny minority, are traitors.

I for the record have not said that voted for the Annan plan are traitors or any of the above. I only said that those who continue to maintain, to this date, that the Annan plan is not what I have very accurately described above, are indeed any of the above I have claimed. The fact that people were given only a week to search and find the entire plan, with all its sections and sub-sections, and the fact that this was only available in English, before they were asked to cast their vote in the referendum, is by itself a very sound excuse for those that made the mistake and voted in favor of such a despicable plan.

For the record, I do not regard you a fool, or a naïve or someone that has not read the plan.

[Bananiot]

Miltiades, I strongly disagree with you. The Annan Plan, under the circumstances, was a masterpiece. However, I respect your view. Time will show who was right.

No one on this planet, only Kifeas, in the same insouciant breath, can cancel himself out. Enjoy:

10:00

Anyone Greek Cypriot that doesn’t see the above facts in the Annan plan is either a fool or a naïve person or a liar or someone that has not read the plan himself, or a traitor! Make your choice!

10:52

I for the record have not said that voted for the Annan plan are traitors or any of the above. I only said that those who continue to maintain, to this date, that the Annan plan is not what I have very accurately described above, are indeed any of the above I have claimed etc, etc.

[Pyrpolizer]

Pyrpolyser, either your Greek is so poor that you find Niyazi Kizilyurek’s Greek to be fluent, or you confuse him with someone else.

None of these. His Greek is fluent, period.

For the record, Niyazi Kizilyurek is a fervent supporter of the…… Annan plan ….

So are many people that I respect, despite the fact that I disagree with their opinion.

the plan that attempted to formally and institutionally split Cyprus into two ethnically owned and based "nation states," and gave the 29% of Cyprus to the complete ownership of the Turkish Cypriot community alone; attempting in this way to eradicate once and for ever all the existencial, historical and cultural rights that the Greek Cypriots have in that part of their country, which they used to inhabit by majority for over 3,500 years, and attempting to legalize all the illegitimate and illegal fait accomplices of the illegal Turkish invasion and occupation.

I agree with this, that’s why I reject the Anan plan. This doesn’t mean I have to hate or attribute all these intentions to anyone who was/is a supporter of the Anan Plan.

Anyone Greek Cypriot that doesn’t see the above facts in the Annan plan is either a fool or a naive person or a liar or someone that has not read the plan himself, or a traitor! Make your choice!

Or a person who would lose 1 and earn 10. Sorry none is valid for me, and stop immitating the Bananas who tries to put words into other peoples mouths.

[Kifeas]

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[Kifeas]

Kifeas , I do not for one minute consider the thousands of Cypriots who voted Yes to the plan as anything remotely close to what you refer to as " traitors".

Where did I say that I consider the thousands of Cypriots who voted "Yes" to the plan as traitors?

[Pyrpolizer]

The Annan Plan, under the circumstances, was a masterpiece.

Right, a masterpiece for disaster.