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[reportfromcyprus]

"Stubalistu, do you think it is a coincidence that you are a car dealer? Did you think that in your "online life" you could be more successful than your real one?"

Making personal comments like these throw everything you say into a very poor light, Piratis. Speaking for myself, I'm disinclined to trust or even listen to your points with any sympathy when they made in a manner that is so clearly below the belt.

A point of view without credibility is just another whisper in the wind.

[Viewpoint]

"Stubalistu, do you think it is a coincidence that you are a car dealer? Did you think that in your "online life" you could be more successful than your real one?"

Making personal comments like these throw everything you say into a very poor light, Piratis. Speaking for myself, I'm disinclined to trust or even listen to your points with any sympathy when they made in a manner that is so clearly below the belt.

A point of view without credibility is just another whisper in the wind.

This is Piratis's area of expertise when he does not want to absorb and accept your arguments he comes out with personal comments which are as you say below the belt but we what does he care a man without basic principles is someone never to taken seriously as he can and will wipe you out without batting an eye lid.

[Piratis]

My arguments are there, they are very clear, and they totally demolish everything you were saying. Maybe thats why some suddenly turned oversensitive while "suprisingly" it was fine when I was personally attacked by somebody who things he knows everything because he had a Turkish propaganda crash course.

So back to the topic:

1) International Media are not just the UK/USA media.(e.g. In another thread I posted an article were just the 28% of Europeans wants Turkey in EU, while the UK/USA media would have us believing otherwise.)
2) It is true that the allies of Turkey (not the world) have gone in a worldwide pro-Turk, anti-Cypriot campaign recently trying to affect world opinion with articles in newspapers and diplomacy.
3) There is no doubt that the AngloAmericans were planning along with the Turks for the partition of Cyprus since 1957, if not earlier. (for the Turks much earlier)
4) The dysfunctional and divisive 1960 agreements were created as a stepping stone to the Turkish plans.
5) Even when GCs realized the game that was played and tried to stop it, the coup and the invasion were forced upon us from abroad giving us no option
6) With the Annan plan they tried to legalize partition and finish off what they had started.
7) Yes, it is beyond any doubt that the half million Cypriots were NOT the ones pulling the strings for what would happen in this very strategic for the regional and world powers island. Anyone that can not see this is a fool. What happened is what those that had the power wanted to happen.

So now you may continue to ignore the truth and the issues of this thread and continue discussing of how "bad" Piratis is.

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Piratis do you realize that we agree on Turkey not entering the EU, many posters have stated clearly that they also do not believe Turkey is wanted or will enter the EU end of story. The rest is all hot air, where does that leave you?

The anti-GC feeling increased after the referendum purely for the fact that you rejected a UN brokered plan endorsed by the international community, people do not look at the details of why you rejected they just labelled you the bad guy for saying a resounding NO, so learn to live with it.

The past is good when you learn from it and try and build a future but unfortunately neither side is any the wiser and if the current atmosphere continues we will not be around to see any positive developments let alone unification only more of the same.

[Pyrpolizer]

Piratis is the #1 person been attacked on a personal level reportfromcyprus. As for poor Kifeas, he will be attacked even after he dies, he is not even in the forum, yet they can't forget him. I am glad to say I am #3 on their preferences.

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Piratis is the #1 person been attacked on a personal level reportfromcyprus. As for poor Kifeas, he will be attacked even after he dies, he is not even in the forum, yet they can't forget him. I am glad to say I am #3 on their preferences.

Doesn't that tell you anything you are in the same group as Piratis and Kifeas....

[Pyrpolizer]

It tells me you yourself makes a hell of a group.

[Pyrpolizer]

I am proud to belong to the group of Kifeas and Piratis.

[reportfromcyprus]

Piratis is the #1 person been attacked on a personal level reportfromcyprus. As for poor Kifeas, he will be attacked even after he dies, he is not even in the forum, yet they can't forget him. I am glad to say I am #3 on their preferences.

We're all human, for heaven's sake I'm not talking about being saints here, I just think that it's unreasonable and unfair to hit below the belt.

If Cyprus-Forum symbolises a microcosm of Cyprus, at least here we could speak reasonably and with tolerance to each other.

Or is that too boring?

[reportfromcyprus]

Back to the topic; it's always easy to see which media are biased and which ones aren't; but companies that have credibility and staying power generally report in as unbiased a manner as humanly possible.

Time, Newsweek, New York Times, and other big names have lasted because people do trust them to get the facts right. It doesn't mean you should suspend disbelief, everyone should be as informed as possible in their own right.