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EU citizens in Cyprus will you vote in the elections?

Postby Sotos » Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:32 pm

How many of the EU citizens that live in Cyprus will vote tomorrow for the Municipal elections? Those that will vote if you want tell us who you will vote for. It is interesting to see how the foreigners can affect the results of these elections!
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Postby villawagen » Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:14 am

i am voting for the european party. i have a cypriot friend who is campaining for them and he has talked me into it. as i dont know to much about cyprus politics i will vote for them.
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Postby devil » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:28 am

I shall not vote. As a guest of this island, I consider that it is none of my business how Cypriots wish to run their own country or their own village. I consider that outside interference is rude in the extreme. How would you like it if a stranger came into your house and told you how to clean it, when and with what to have your meals, which TV programmes to watch etc.? I consider the Peyia crowd standing for election are a group of ignoramuses and I hope they get soundly defeated for their sheer arrogance.

Besides which, the Cypriots are quite capable of making a balls-up of their own administration without our help! :)
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:41 am

devil wrote:I shall not vote. As a guest of this island, I consider that it is none of my business how Cypriots wish to run their own country or their own village. I consider that outside interference is rude in the extreme. How would you like it if a stranger came into your house and told you how to clean it, when and with what to have your meals, which TV programmes to watch etc.? I consider the Peyia crowd standing for election are a group of ignoramuses and I hope they get soundly defeated for their sheer arrogance.

Besides which, the Cypriots are quite capable of making a balls-up of their own administration without our help! :)


I disagree with you. When people permanently reside in an area and pay local communal taxes, they should also have a right to decide how the money they pay are spent, and the communal affairs of their locality are run, because they affect their own lives as well.
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Postby villawagen » Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:26 am

devil wrote:I shall not vote. As a guest of this island, I consider that it is none of my business how Cypriots wish to run their own country or their own village. I consider that outside interference is rude in the extreme. How would you like it if a stranger came into your house and told you how to clean it, when and with what to have your meals, which TV programmes to watch etc.? I consider the Peyia crowd standing for election are a group of ignoramuses and I hope they get soundly defeated for their sheer arrogance.

Besides which, the Cypriots are quite capable of making a balls-up of their own administration without our help! :)


i disagree with this, i live here i am a European citizen i have a right to take an interest within the community i have chosen to live in. i pay my taxes into the community and my social insurance !!!
i would never interfere with the way big things work or Cypriot culture as a whole!! however i don't think there is anything wrong with me showing interest of what is going on around me !!!
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Postby devil » Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:01 pm

villawagen wrote:i disagree with this, i live here i am a European citizen i have a right to take an interest within the community i have chosen to live in. i pay my taxes into the community and my social insurance !!!


You may have the legal right, through a quirk of stupid EU legislation, but that does not give you the moral right to influence what the Cypriot people themselves should decide. If you wish to exercise your moral right, you can, but only if you opt to become a Cypriot national.

The question of taxes and social security is a non sequitur; you chose to live here and, by so doing, you opted for the style of life which the Cypriot community has offered you. If you don't like the way your money is being spent, then you are free to move to where you like it. In any case, if you have any issue with the way the local authorities, duly elected by the Cypriot people, are spending your money, I'm quite sure that, as an inhabitant (of any nationality) of the community, the Mukhtar and his council will be pleased to hear your complaint, without your having to try and elect someone else in his place. All you are likely to do is to stir up resentment by poking your nose into what most Cypriots will consider as doesn't concern you. Believe me, you will be more respected by not voting.

Please re-read what I wrote above and tell me what you think in the case of your liberty of how you run your household being taken away.
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Postby cyprusgrump » Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:32 pm

I find myself in total agreement with devil.

Although I live here, pay the taxes, etc. I still see myself as a guest in this beautiful country and don’t believe it is my right to try and change how things are. In the same way, I don’t vote in the UK anymore – I don’t live there so why should I try and assert an influence?

I am gravely concerned that the expat community would try to change things that are close to the hearts of the Cypriots if they gained influence.
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Postby villawagen » Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:53 pm

devil wrote:
villawagen wrote:i disagree with this, i live here i am a European citizen i have a right to take an interest within the community i have chosen to live in. i pay my taxes into the community and my social insurance !!!


You may have the legal right, through a quirk of stupid EU legislation, but that does not give you the moral right to influence what the Cypriot people themselves should decide. If you wish to exercise your moral right, you can, but only if you opt to become a Cypriot national.

The question of taxes and social security is a non sequitur; you chose to live here and, by so doing, you opted for the style of life which the Cypriot community has offered you. If you don't like the way your money is being spent, then you are free to move to where you like it. In any case, if you have any issue with the way the local authorities, duly elected by the Cypriot people, are spending your money, I'm quite sure that, as an inhabitant (of any nationality) of the community, the Mukhtar and his council will be pleased to hear your complaint, without your having to try and elect someone else in his place. All you are likely to do is to stir up resentment by poking your nose into what most Cypriots will consider as doesn't concern you. Believe me, you will be more respected by not voting.

Please re-read what I wrote above and tell me what you think in the case of your liberty of how you run your household being taken away.
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Postby villawagen » Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:13 pm

devil wrote:
villawagen wrote:i disagree with this, i live here i am a European citizen i have a right to take an interest within the community i have chosen to live in. i pay my taxes into the community and my social insurance !!!


You may have the legal right, through a quirk of stupid EU legislation, but that does not give you the moral right to influence what the Cypriot people themselves should decide. If you wish to exercise your moral right, you can, but only if you opt to become a Cypriot national.

The question of taxes and social security is a non sequitur; you chose to live here and, by so doing, you opted for the style of life which the Cypriot community has offered you. If you don't like the way your money is being spent, then you are free to move to where you like it. In any case, if you have any issue with the way the local authorities, duly elected by the Cypriot people, are spending your money, I'm quite sure that, as an inhabitant (of any nationality) of the community, the Mukhtar and his council will be pleased to hear your complaint, without your having to try and elect someone else in his place. All you are likely to do is to stir up resentment by poking your nose into what most Cypriots will consider as doesn't concern you. Believe me, you will be more respected by not voting.

Please re-read what I wrote above and tell me what you think in the case of your liberty of how you run your household being taken away.



the stupid quirk of European influence is here and it is not going to go away!!!! i am a European citizen and i exercise the right to work vote and live here, as indeed the millions of Cypriots that live work and vote in the UK have done, well before Cyprus entered into the EU. and when i say millions, i mean millions far more Cypriots live in the uk than in Cyprus :wink:
i have no intent on changing Cyprus at all, i would not have moved here if i didn't like it, however that does not mean that i should not have an opinion if i don't agree with it. i will follow the Cyprus code of practice and adhere to the traditions and of the gc ways of doing things. i have no problem with dealing with the mukhtar or his council.
indeed if my son has to do national service in the Cypriot army then i would be proud of him to do that :shock:
however i am not here to take anything that i do not agree with, without the right to voice my objection publicly, that is not democracy!!!!!!

at the end of the day Cyprus chose to be in the EU, wake up to the fact that you have to take everything that goes with that!!!

try taking in one third of Poland into you system like the UK :wink:
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Postby villawagen » Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:27 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:I find myself in total agreement with devil.

Although I live here, pay the taxes, etc. I still see myself as a guest in this beautiful country and don’t believe it is my right to try and change how things are. In the same way, I don’t vote in the UK anymore – I don’t live there so why should I try and assert an influence?

I am gravely concerned that the expat community would try to change things that are close to the hearts of the Cypriots if they gained influence.


read what i have said i have no intention in changing anything about Cyprus, or what the Cypriots are trying to achieve, however if you can see that something is blatantly wrong then you should be able to voice your concerns in the correct manner, so that something can be done to rectify the problem.

for example if you live by a road that has a large hole in it and every day someone drives over the hole and breaks his suspension or causes an accident you should be able to complain to someone to get the situation sorted.
likewise you should be able to vote for an mp who states that he promises to improve the holes in the road !!!!

this is not trying to interfere with how Cyprus is run, it is just giving an opinion on how to improve certain things, that effect your day to day life.
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