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[GorillaGal]

Viewpoint,
there wasn't one positive thing you got out of your experience in the military?
just wondering....
GG

[humanist]

Miltiadis ... I like you! You have a good view of the world and a spiritual basis that resonates very much with mine. However, your description of 9/11 as being "most barbaric" I really do not get. Sure I do not condone it at all, howver I don't think it is as barbaric as the invasion of Iraq by the coalition forcs nor as horoble as the AIDS epidemic in thrid world countries. Sure it was a shoking experience for the whole world and all innocent people died, to that end it was cold blooded murder.

I guess a wake up call to the US that cause and effect is the dichotomy of life..... at some stage the Americans (government) did something that offended someone else who sought revenge, I suggest a great book by an American author Neale donald Walsch and his three books Conversations with God. Describes both paradise right here right now, hell right here right now, cause and effect and the Karmic law of the Universe.

Andri, Andri, Andri I enjoy your views all the time but I gotta say some men in some UNIFORMS are just hunky and sooooooo bloomin sexy! That I would love to have an adventure with. As far as what men are to be like well my man would have to be loving sensitive caring enviromentally conscious and awake spiritually awaken supportive caring and respectful and absolutely sexy all 5ft.3"

[THE HIGHLANDER]

Personaly i didnt have to do national service,but i did serve in the TA Paras for 4 years and i found it tough mentaly and phisicily but enjoyable and do agree with national service for 12 months max at either 16 or 18 yrs of age.

"P'COY AIRBORN" "HE WHO DARE'S WIN" "UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL"

[Nexties]

at some stage the Americans (government) did something that offended someone else who sought revenge

Nexties says to humanist, "The extent to which you are imprecise is a remarkable indication of the lack of validity in your claim. Even a person of some limited intelligence as you humanist should offer some content of cognition, instead of some erroneous mental representation from someone doing something that is deliberately misleading."

[Eliko]

The pages of history are littered with examples of military conflicts, small armies form allegiences with larger, more powerful ones, to impose their will upon others. The primary objective of a military force is precisely that.
The civilian populations which suffer the consequences of the invasions are usually prone to form their own pockets of Resistance to the new rule of law which is forced upon them. To the more powerful force, these are 'terrorists', a carefully chosen word to describe what the resister will see as an honourable struggle to return to normality, a 'freedom fighter'. As the issue is determined by force of arms, the mightier force dictates how the population should receive them and then the politicians take over the role of the military. I believe that to be a fair representation of what generally happens throughout the world, the general population is unable to accept all the new changes to their culture and thereafter are subjected to the whim of the politicians who constantly re-assure them that their lot will be better for them, it never is of course, things are never the 'better' only 'different'. Superior weaponry is the key to a successful military campaign, the defending force has little chance of surviving unless it can secure the help of other forces likewise threatened. The American history is a fine example of all the fore-going comments, a nation created out of the destruction and decimation of an entire culture of truly wonderful folk who still suffer from the injustices of invasion.

[humanist]

OOops there I go again offending an American or too. Like I care what you thin Nex

Eliko thank you for summarising it perfectly. Without personally attacking someone who has different views than yours.

[miltiades]

HUMANIST THINKS :
"""Sure I do not condone it at all, howver I don't think it is as barbaric as the invasion of Iraq by the coalition forcs nor as horoble as the AIDS epidemic in thrid world countries. """

Then you ought to really re examine your moral philosophy because you are utterly wrong . I suggest when you are next flying , just imagine if you dare , that some fucking maniacs are going to crush your aircraft onto a western target not giving a shit how many innocent people they will kill , the more the merrier as far as they are concerned. They are the scum of the earth the modern day barbarians incomparable and disgusting animals masquerading as religious people.
What does aids have to do with premeditated murder, and the Iraq invasion was a success the only failure was the belief that these people were ready for democracy , they need a few thousand years more, because a nation that has god as their guiding force , that nation is doomed to suffer.

[Pyrpolizer]

but you have to admit (if you are a woman) that there is nothing more handsome than a man in a uniform, standing so proud and erect.

I gotta say some men in some UNIFORMS are just hunky and sooooooo bloomin sexy! That I would love to have an adventure with.

Competition of Cuties Vs Cutys.

[humanist]

Miltiadis, I acknowledged that all the people who died in September 11, were innocent other thatn the suicide bombers themselves. However I fail to see how that is different from the hunderds of people who die in Iraq everyday by a bomb being droped on their village.

[GorillaGal]

Are you bline to the fact, Humanist, that the USA is not deliberatly bombing villages and killing innocents? we have people over there, military and civilians, that are doing alot of good in iraq. Many of us are upset over the fact that our government is seeing that every iraqi citizen gets health care when they don't even take care of our own! should we have turned a blind eye to the jews and gays in nazi germany? should we have turned a blind eye to all the innocents that were dying and being suppressed by the former iraqi dictatorship? is it so bad that we are bringing democracy to a country that has been supressed for thousands of years? certainly any educated person will see that in bringing about a change, any change, will cause some unrest within the country. innocents will die in the course of change. "the lives of the few outweigh the lives of the many."
Now that i know you are a woman (i assume that from your post about liking a man in uniform. of course you could also be gay.)...but assuming you are a woman, would you rather be a woman in iraq 15 years ago, or now? answer that! and then condemn my country.....