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Can We Pls Acknowledge That Both Greek/ Turkish Speaking Cyp

Postby humanist » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:22 am

have experienced discrimination and loss and move on with the future?
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Postby zan » Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:27 am

Exactly what I and all the TCs here have said time and time again but it is in the manner and how we move on that is the sticking point. Just turning Cyprus back to Greek Cypriot control is not an option for us and never will be.
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Postby humanist » Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:32 am

How about you have governmental involvement and represention as per capita.

Zan are Greek Speaking Cypriot's really that monsterous? Have you personally met a Greek Speaking Cypriot? What were your experience?
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:49 am

I have met many,on a day to day basis they are fine just like any other human being but deep down they have not evolved at all from the 1960s they still think their numerical superiority allows them to be masters of Cyprus and impose their will on Tcs, the fact that they have to share equally is beyond comprehension. They consider us spoilt and cannot understand why we do not want GC administered democracy and human rights.
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Postby zan » Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:50 am

humanist wrote:How about you have governmental involvement and represention as per capita.

Zan are Greek Speaking Cypriot's really that monsterous? Have you personally met a Greek Speaking Cypriot? What were your experience?


I spent my teenage years having a great time with three Greek Cypriots and an Armenian; I never really had any Turkish Cypriot friends that I could call my best friend. I have lost touch with all of them except for one and will still fight by his side. I have no problem with the every GC man; my problem is with the politicians and the aspiring politicians. If all things were equal you would come second every time to me calling for unification but they are not. The situation calls for other means to satisfy demands and these cannot be ignored. The system is to blame and those that subscribe to it not the GC people that just want to get on with their lives, and unfortunately temporary separation is what is called for. This will give us a chance to compete on a level ground, reunification now will not.
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Postby humanist » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:42 am

Zan I tottally agree with you the system is to blame but we also make the system man. We are the system if we as you and I and our families joint hands in frendshp the system will inevitably fall because we are united and we drive it.

Viewpoint I do not agree with you on your coments that this has to do with numerical superiority.

I would really like to hear from you what you think a fair and just solution for all Cypriots is. Including Armenians, Maronites etc and how you see those groups represented equally in the Cypriot society.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:45 am

humanist wrote:Zan I tottally agree with you the system is to blame but we also make the system man. We are the system if we as you and I and our families joint hands in frendshp the system will inevitably fall because we are united and we drive it.

Viewpoint I do not agree with you on your coments that this has to do with numerical superiority.

I would really like to hear from you what you think a fair and just solution for all Cypriots is. Including Armenians, Maronites etc and how you see those groups represented equally in the Cypriot society.


The Annan plan renamed Papa Plan with adjustments for GC concerns on property and security issues. :wink:
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Postby humanist » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:47 am

There you go we agree on something....... :) isn't hat great .. I really do sincerely have a grin on my face and in my heart that as two Cypriots we can agree on something.

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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:53 am

humanist wrote:There you go we agree on something....... :) isn't hat great .. I really do sincerely have a grin on my face and in my heart that as two Cypriots we can agree on something.

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Then why have your leaders elected by the GC people still faffing around with EU solution when they already have the blue print in their hands? This only tells the TCs people that your leadership is not sincere in its search for solution and the only criteria for them is to force their demands upon us by using EU leverage on Turkey.
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Postby zan » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:57 am

humanist wrote:Zan I tottally agree with you the system is to blame but we also make the system man. We are the system if we as you and I and our families joint hands in frendshp the system will inevitably fall because we are united and we drive it.

Viewpoint I do not agree with you on your coments that this has to do with numerical superiority.

I would really like to hear from you what you think a fair and just solution for all Cypriots is. Including Armenians, Maronites etc and how you see those groups represented equally in the Cypriot society.



Yes I have hope that the system will fall but not with the status quo and not with sudden reunification. I also believe that unless there is a great change in thinking joint administration will also fail.

I have said this many times and am expecting this civilised conversation to fall apart with others lambasting my comments but still, here goes.

Respect and recognition of the TRNC by the RoC will go a long way in securing trust with the TCs. Compensation to the refugees is a must so that they can get on with their lives. Talks on reunification must NEVER stop. The settlers are human and must be treated as such and accepted as Cypriots. Lets move on from today.
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