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[twinkle]

What difference will direct flights make?

It is hardly likely that BA and all the British tour operators are queing up to fly to the north. All the ROC government has to do is to cut their subsidies to stop them even considering flying to Ercan/Tymbou.

The biggest majority of British tourist come go to the GC side on holiday anyway. Why would they want to fly to the north and then have a lenthy transfer to their destination in the south. Doesnt make any sense.

Twinkle wrote

The GC can do nothing about the flights between Turkey and the occupied areas as it is "designated" turkish airspace.

It takes CY over 4 hours to fly to Moscow. If they could fly directly over the occupied areas it would halve the time

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Twinkle all foreign airlines can fly over Turkish airspace to Larnaca or Paphos. It is only Cyprus registered airlines which are not allowed to fly over Turkish airspace. I had this disagreement with a friend of a friend who flew Moscow to Larnaca with Aeroflot. He showed me a pic of Karpaz from the aircraft as he flew over it. It is a trip he has done many times.

That's what I said. CY-prus Airways can't fly over.

[Hiyar herif]

I beleive the reason why the Cyprus problem is not solved is because there is too much divergence among the TCs themselves as to what they want. It is not like the Gcs who more or less all want the same thing.
Among the TCs there are the partitionists (hell they dominate this forum simply because this forum is in ENGLISH) .

the only reason i use this forum is because its civilized - a lot of moaning and bickering but its clean.every single turkish forum i 'try' to use is full of idiots talking crap about the 'turkish whore' he screwed the night before or given the chance he would blow all the turks up.
cant even have a decent conversation amongs ourselves without a gc getting involved.

[zan]

I beleive the reason why the Cyprus problem is not solved is because there is too much divergence among the TCs themselves as to what they want. It is not like the Gcs who more or less all want the same thing.
Among the TCs there are the partitionists (hell they dominate this forum simply because this forum is in ENGLISH) .

the only reason i use this forum is because its civilized - a lot of moaning and bickering but its clean.every single turkish forum i 'try' to use is full of idiots talking crap about the 'turkish whore' he screwed the night before or given the chance he would blow all the turks up.
cant even have a decent conversation amongs ourselves without a gc getting involved.

I did not answer that point because it is contradicting. If I could speak Greek then I would post on Greek forums aswell

[elko]

Britain would love to do it after the Americans tried and failed.
It is not only the Chicago convention that totally forbids this. It's the UN resolutions, it's the Aquis etc. There is no way out for them.

Do I notice the parachuter from the "sales of villas" forum, merchant Mr Elko just vanished from here or am I wrong?

My friend Pyro, you are wrong as always. I have not vanished anywhere but some of us have a life so I can't keep glued to my computer monitoring what the lunatics are doing all the time

What US was doing was just a show, it is not practical to have direct flights to Ercan from US.
On the legal side I pointed you to Chicago Convention and specially article 2. To help you further I pointed out the phrase "Suzerainty, Protection and Mandate" but it was simply not understood. I get the feeling that in the Gymnasium you study too much Greek grammar and syntax but you lose out completely on "comprehension". Very sad really but I am not to blame for this.

Anyway, in simple terms that even morons can understand "What law, convention etc. can stop UK from starting direct flights to Ercan if same laws etc. did not stop Turkey doing the same?" Simple question, simple answer please. Just for once leave aside your fancifull thoughts.
ismet

[humanist]

Hang on mate, I am really trying to understand truly I am. I am really wanting to undertsand how it is possible to feel comfortable with taking someone's land and expect no retribution for it? I am really trying to understand how this is possible. I could never do that and hence want to know.

anyway I am sorry that you feel that separation is better, but I accept that as your wishes.

[DT.]

why do you not have a country post code? Why do you not have an international dialling code? WHy are you made to look like a turkish province?

Simple reason is turkey is saying its doing internal flights into one of its provinces. Fact is Cyprus did not take this further for humanitarian reasons. Resources into the impoverished region need to be flown in somehow.

[Viewpoint]

Hang on mate, I am really trying to understand truly I am. I am really wanting to undertsand how it is possible to feel comfortable with taking someone's land and expect no retribution for it? I am really trying to understand how this is possible. I could never do that and hence want to know.

anyway I am sorry that you feel that separation is better, but I accept that as your wishes.

Was this aimed at me??

If it was then TCs have never said that there will be no retribution for GC property all along we have argued that financial compensation should be paid to those whose properties cannot be returned, even now the property commission is a clear indication that if handled correctly many GCs could utilize to find retribution after 32 years.

[DT.]

thanks mrfromg. I fail to see what his point is. Legally the sovereignty of cyprus is indivisible.

What the EHCR said is completely different regarding the turkish troops exercsising authority over the northn part. But even if that was somehow so twisted and turned in order to fit in with what elko is saying that article 2 reads it to be then that should mean that ercan airport belongs to turkey.

As far as I know you are claiming to be trnc, and tturkey has not ceded northrn cyprus.

now that i've explained my point in a way in which only morons can understand as you so eloquently put it elko, please answer the above. WHat's disneyland pretending to be this week? Its own state or part of turkey?

[elko]

Hang on mate, I am really trying to understand truly I am. I am really wanting to undertsand how it is possible to feel comfortable with taking someone's land and expect no retribution for it? I am really trying to understand how this is possible. I could never do that and hence want to know.

anyway I am sorry that you feel that separation is better, but I accept that as your wishes.

Humanist,
You are one of the rare Greek Cypriots that I can discuss sensibly. There are a few more on the Cyprus List and we do meet socially as well.

I am not easy at all with the Cyprus Problem and I can assure you I know both sides of the problem too well. I do want an amicable solution but with Papadop in charge I see no hope of this. Papadop is trying to suffocate us to submission and we have to fight back in every way we can. For this reason I even support the sale of land to "foreigners" as a way to boost our economy and fight the isolation which is harming our economy. So Greek Cypriots should not complain about the situation they helped create.
ismet

[DT.]

FIrstly answer my question you moron (in the spirit of your name-calling). Secondly learn your chronology

74 you invaded
06 you're crying about isolation