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Direct Flights to TRNC from UK and Sweeden

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Postby humanist » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:06 pm

This is an e-mail I sent to the Swedish Government, please send your emails too

"Dear Honourable Prime Minister

I am sending you this quick message to express my deepest disappointment at your governments decision to begin direct flights to the Occupied Areas of The Republic of Cyprus.

I am urging your government on behalf of the 200,000 Greek Speaking Cypriot refugees to rethink their decision.

You decision to begin direct flights and trade with the illegal and unrecognised regime that has occupied north Cyprus for the past thirty years, is unacceptable and unethical and socially immoral.

Greek Speaking Cypriot refugees have had ther human rights violated for over three decades and the message Sweden is sending to Turkey is that it can by force occupy the sovereingty of a Republic and it will be rewarded.

I urge you kind Prime Minister to rethink your position on this matter until a just and fair solution is found and implemented in Cyprus.

I thank you for your time in reading my e-mail.

Yours Truly "
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Postby humanist » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:07 pm

Nickp do not underestimated the British and what they are capable of ding to support the Turks.
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Postby paaul12 » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:21 pm

This is an e-mail I sent to the Swedish Government, please send your emails too

"Dear Honorable Prime Minister

I am sending you this quick message to express my deep gratitude at your governments decision to begin direct flights to the TRNC.

I have been urging government’s on behalf of the 250,000 Turkish Speaking Cypriot’s living under isolation to rethink their decision not to fly direct to the TRNC.

Your decision to begin direct flights and trade with the TRNC who have lived in isolation for the past 30 years is greatly appreciated.

Turkish Speaking Cypriot’s have had their human rights violated for over three decades and the message Sweden is sending to Turkey is that it can finally move on.

I urge you kind Prime Minister in your position on this matter to do what you can to persuade other governments to follow your excellent decision, I thank you.

I thank you for your time in reading my e-mail.

Yours Sincerely"
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Postby Nickp » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:35 pm

humanist wrote:Nickp do not underestimated the British and what they are capable of ding to support the Turks.


If the British goverment was going to do anything like open up direct flights they would have done it by now.

More so they would have certainly done it after the re-jection of the UN peace plan when most european countries where angry with the Greek side.

Furthermore, i can't see it in being in Englands interest to open up direct flights as it would seriously damage relations with the ROC where they already have strategic interests and to some extent EU member Greece.

And what for, what's in it for Britian?

It's not worth it, why rock the boat, they might as well sit back with the status quo until there is a settlement or a deal is struck with Turkey that allows the opening of such an airport.

Hence, Britian's interest would be better served by using their influence to persuade Turkey and Cyprus to some sort of compromise.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:39 pm

I would say the last 2 posts TOGETHER summarise the truth.
Both people suffer unjustifiably and unhumanly The one because of actions of the other.
There is only one way out. A solution in which both will agree.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:44 pm

Britain would love to do it after the Americans tried and failed.
It is not only the Chicago convention that totally forbits this. It's the UN resolutions, it's the Aquis etc. There is no way out for them.

Do I notice the parachuter from the "sales of villas" forum, merchant Mr Elko just vanished from here or am I wrong?
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Postby DT. » Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:09 pm

he seems to do that a lot when he has no arguments left. Ever since we answered that silly question of his.

Ismet...anytime matey, any questions you have on current affairs or any conventions you need explaining let us know.
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Postby humanist » Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:09 pm

Do you guys seriously think that the Cyprus Problem exists because neither side can come to an agreement? I am sorry but I think there are foreign interests in this that take precedence over what a million people think, feel and experience.

I believe all this is taking place because the English don't want to losse the bases in Akrotiri and dekelia. Lets face it if the Turks withdraw from Cyprus the next logical step would be for the British to hand over those two bases to the State of Cyprus however that is comprised. They will not do that. I am sorry for the Turkish Speaking Cypriots who believe that Turkey is acting in their best interests. If Turkey was acting on the best interests of Turksih Speaking Cypriots it would have contacted the UN asked that more UN troops are placed in Cyprus to protect the safety needs of Turkish Speaking Cypriots as she intended to withdraw its military presence. That would have allowed for negotiation and trust for both communities to solve their differences.

This is my opinion you have the right to agree or disagree with me. That is okay too.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:46 pm

Humanist despite all the nationalistic nonsense by some people the fact is we want the British bases here, in fact we profit from their presence.Imagine having 10,000 permanent tourists if you see what I mean.
The British on the other hand just keep them to provide some services to the Americans, like the echelon system. They don't really need them, its a waste of money for them.
Be sure in any solution they will care to re-confirm their status, and we will sign like good boys as always.
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Postby Nickp » Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:47 pm

humanist wrote:Do you guys seriously think that the Cyprus Problem exists because neither side can come to an agreement? I am sorry but I think there are foreign interests in this that take precedence over what a million people think, feel and experience.

I believe all this is taking place because the English don't want to losse the bases in Akrotiri and dekelia. Lets face it if the Turks withdraw from Cyprus the next logical step would be for the British to hand over those two bases to the State of Cyprus however that is comprised. They will not do that. I am sorry for the Turkish Speaking Cypriots who believe that Turkey is acting in their best interests. If Turkey was acting on the best interests of Turksih Speaking Cypriots it would have contacted the UN asked that more UN troops are placed in Cyprus to protect the safety needs of Turkish Speaking Cypriots as she intended to withdraw its military presence. That would have allowed for negotiation and trust for both communities to solve their differences.

This is my opinion you have the right to agree or disagree with me. That is okay too.


I think the British Bases are nothing to do with the Cyprus problem. Sure, in any compromise Britain will maintain that it's bases are secure but at the end of the day it's not Britains interests that is holding a solution back.

The main obstacle to a solution is Turkeys interests, point blank.

As you mentioned, Turkey are not their for the Turkish Cypriots, they are there for their own strategic interests, this is why it has been so hard to reach a settlement, their instrangence, they are not willing to give up what they have taken by force.

Why?

It's simple, the army plays a large role in Turkeys life. If there where no Turkish troops in Cyprus or if Cyprus became entirely Greek ruled Turkey would cease to become a maritime nation.

Ships getting into and out of Turey would have to pass Cyprus and Greece first and this is the reason why the Turks wont leave or compromise. In such a situation the Turkish repbulic could have it's sea ports cut off from the rest of the world.

This is the reason why they have demanded a break away state for so many years and why they have brought settlers to the island.

At the end of the day, it is the Turkish army's interest in Cyprus that is the problem. Even the sound of Erogdans proposal of opening up one Turkish port made them get in a huff.
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