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[EUropean666]

HI,

i would like to know if Kenan Akin and Erdan Emanet arrest warrant applies only in Cyprus or in the whole EU,. does anyone know?

[EUropean666]

those are accused for the murder of solomou and there is warrant against them, i just need want to know if there is an pan-EU warrant for their arrest or not

[Pyrpolizer]

@Murataga and Zan,

So you basically want partition, i.e a part of Cyprus to belong to you, be administred by you, and you want that be agreed with the GCs.This would be possible if the now occupied areas 37% of the land belonged to you. As you know almost 90% of the privately owned lands in that area belongs to GCs.
So what you want is not something the Gcs would never accept.

The equivalent of what you want looked from the GC side would be every GC refugee to go back to his lands and the TCs move to their villages as they were before. All settlers to go away, and you just be citizens with individual rights only, i.e no political power beyond what you can get via your own 18% voting power. Which in most cases would just count for nothing other than just regulating which among the GCs gets the power.

Both the above are impossible. So there comes the question how you can have an area in which you will be ruled by yourselves and have your political power count for youselves. The answer is through a Federal system in which the GCs will still have a say concerning the areas they will handle over to you for administration. This cannot be done by just allowing say 10% GCs to go back to their villages. So you have to accept the idea that you will not be living alone in the area that will be handled to you.More over that the GCs will be having political power in your own component state (on component state level) that will regulate your own affairs.
As for property owneship even if all TC properties left behind are exchanged with equal GC properties the GCs will still hold ownership of most properties in your component state.( Unless of course we do some tricks as per Anan Plan where the GCs would lose 2/3rds)

So these are the realities both you and the GCs have to swallow to have a peaceful solution.
I said before the solution is going to be BITTER both for you and for us. I wonder if your leaders ever told you that… For your information they told us that hundreds of times, however I am not sure many GC people understood why. I am curious if your leaders told you that even once.

[Pyrpolizer]

Heres a hypothetical scenario for you Zan and Murataga.
Suppose the RoC government and your administration are put aside and the EU takes over Cyprus for administration and apply their own law here. There is no president, no parliament nothing, only EU officials doing some very basic administration, whereas the courts are based on EU aquis.
How do you see the situation developing?

In my opinion you will be in big trouble regarding the properties.

This is not an unrealistic scenario. In fact this is what would probably happen if one day Turkey enters the EU and the Cyprob is still unsolved.

[MR-from-NG]

Pyrpolizer, with all due respect, there are issues other than Cyprus for the EU to deal with. To them its just a problem and their attitude deep down is "deal with it and sort it out yourselves". On the surface they have to be seen to assist the ROC with this problem but in reality they are far from happy.

The cyprob is undeniably difficult and complex to say the least. I reckon big bucks from the USA and a balanced input from the UN is the only way forward.

the issue of the GC refugees is not as difficult as you may think. Some will want to come back to their properties and will. Some are happy where they are and others will say "thank you" to a reasonable compensation.

The difficult part is the sharing of power. Once a solution is found to this the rest is easy.

[EUropean666]

guys, are you sure that you are writing on the right topic? i just asked some information regarding those two criminals.

[MR-from-NG]

Sorry 666, just realised this.

I did a search on Google news and looked at TC newspapers as well as the Cyprus Mail and could see nothing about these 2 guys. Forgive me for my ignorance but what is this all about?

[miltiades]

Mrfromng , that was a good post , with an atmosphere of goodwill and cooperation all is possible.

[MR-from-NG]

Mrfromng , that was a good post , with an atmosphere of goodwill and cooperation all is possible.

I'm following in your footsteps my dear friend.

[Pyrpolizer]

mrfromng,

With what Zan and Murataga aspire to, there is no power sharing at all, as they want partition.
Btw my previous 2 posts were posted in this topic by mistake. I will now move them to the right place