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eight chapters to be frozen

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Piratis » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:19 pm

and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait


Are you talking about you waiting for the legalization of your illegalities, or for Turkeys waiting to enter the EU?

We will wait. We are capable people and have done well and we will do even better, even with 1/3rd of our country occupied. But while we wait, you will also face the consequences, I hope you are happy with them as well.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:35 pm

Piratis wrote:
and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait


Are you talking about you waiting for the legalization of your illegalities, or for Turkeys waiting to enter the EU?

We will wait. We are capable people and have done well and we will do even better, even with 1/3rd of our country occupied. But while we wait, you will also face the consequences, I hope you are happy with them as well.


As I have said before its your right do your worst dont hold anything backlets see what you have :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:56 pm

Piratis wrote:
So I guess Piratis is correct, the RoC does not want to solve the Cypriot problem, as long as Turkey is able to stand on it's own two feet.!!


That is not exactly what I said. What I said was that today the balance of power favors Turkey and that any proposal that is made by the USA (Turkeys ally and the one behind things like Annan plan) would favor Turkey. Such proposal will be (just like Annan plan) a solution for TCs and Turkey but not a solution for the rest of Cypriots.

So it is not that RoC doesn't want a true solution, but that a true solution is currently impossible.

The balance of power will change, as it can't stay constant. Now you might say that this change could favor Turkey. This is could be the case, until the next change, but eventually our turn will come as well.

So to cut a long story short, we will not sign away our country, never, and we will wait for the first chance available to take it back. If we don't sign it away, when the time will come to take it back (the time that the balance of power will favor this) we will do it, and nobody will be able to complain as we would just be enforcing legality.


Piratis,

I think RoC will elect a president who will want to find a long lasting solution with the TC's than waiting for the "Balance of Power" to change between Turkey and RoC. Why wait for ever for the shift of power to happen and go to war, again, when it should be able to solve the Cyprus problem, politically.

Lets just say in 20 years, you get to have all the power in your favour and you get rid of Turkey. Now what.?

Are you going to start getting rid of, all those living in the North, which may be 2-3 times as many people than now.?

What will you do with them.?

Do you think other countries are not going to stop you from touching their citizens, who may be living there for 20 years or more. ?

Will the EU allow you to evict all the TC's and foreign nationals from their homes they occupy now, whether it is a Greek property or not.?

In short, the answers are NO. Guess what, you're going to have to find a political solution then also. So why waste waiting for 20 more years (more like 100) to find a solution, when it can be done now. We can not go back to the old days, as to how everything was. We need to start fresh. So some people will not be able to go back to their original homes. They will get their country back, and a new home to live and travel as they please.

Can you imagine how much more difficult is going to be in 20 years time or even in 100 years time.???
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Postby Piratis » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:10 pm

Kikapu all our presidents want to find a true solution as soon as possible but the only thing Turkey accepts now is partition.

Nobody said that a true solution will be rejected. But for the time being the Turks expect us to capitulate and gain on our loss since they believe they won the war, but this will not happen.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:13 pm

Piratis wrote:Kikapu all our presidents want to find a true solution as soon as possible but the only thing Turkey accepts now is partition.

Nobody said that a true solution will be rejected. But for the time being the Turks expect us to capitulate and gain on our loss since they believe they won the war, but this will not happen.


The world endorsed the Annan plan and GC rejected whats to say you will not reject plan A B C D E F G ......as it means compromise and sharing which you are dead against so no go welcome to the real world.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:21 pm

The Annan plan was a plan we had every right to reject. Why don't you obey they UN resolutions that call for the respect of the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus? You remember the "world" only when it suits you?

What you expect from us is not compromise but our capitulation and this will never happen in the real world.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:25 pm

Piratis wrote:The Annan plan was a plan we had every right to reject. Why don't you obey they UN resolutions that call for the respect of the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus? You remember the "world" only when it suits you?

What you expect from us is not compromise but our capitulation and this will never happen in the real world.


Then you can wait and wait and so on you know the drill by now :lol:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:39 pm

Hey I have good news for all the Papadopoulos haters in here.

TODAY PAPADOPOULOS SIGNED HIS DEATH PENALTY. Long live Papadopoule, you were as incompetent as lier as the rest we had.
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Postby andri_cy » Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:27 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Hey I have good news for all the Papadopoulos haters in here.

TODAY PAPADOPOULOS SIGNED HIS DEATH PENALTY. Long live Papadopoule, you were as incompetent as lier as the rest we had.



Can you explain plz?
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Postby turkkan » Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:32 pm

Piratis, the phileleftheros article was negative towards the punishment given to turkey, however what is the greek cypriot press saying about the 8 chapter suspension? Is it portrayed as a victory or are they angry?
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