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rights for Kurds, same as ‘what Turkey asks for TCs

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby pitsilos » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:28 am

yeah the greeks a long lost family when they have something to gain. come on andri please give me a break,
they eat psomaki and i eat psomi, big difference, if you know what i mean.

and yes lets all respect each others roots. does that mean we have to identify with them?
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Postby alexISS » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:35 am

pitsilos, Cypriots snubbing Greece is obviously a new and exciting trend (I have experienced it first hand), but don't forget it's Greece your country and government counts on every time there is trouble.
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Postby alexISS » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:44 am

zan wrote:I think you need to go back and see who those posts were aimed at but I have to admit that some innocents were caught up in the crossfire. Please stop trying to tell me who I hate and who I don't, although again, another confession, it is all becoming a bit of a blur. As for bg, I think if you look back you will find that Ixiloss and DT were the attackers and you decided to move in on the action. They are hopless cases, but you?


If you go back to all my replies to bg_turk's posts, you'll see that the basis of our debate was the Turks of Thrace. While I have admitted many times that, although their quality of life has greatly increased, there are problems that need to be solved, he insisted that they are something like 3rd class citizens while the Kurds are pretty much ok in Turkey (I can dig up his replies if you like). Bg_turk doesn't care about human beings, his only desire is to bash Greece. Take a look if you want:
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus3982.html
I honestly have no desire of doing the same with Turkey, if I have it's because I was in defence and I'm sorry.
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Postby pitsilos » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:45 am

and thats slowly changing, you do well to remember.

what i am saying, greece is for greeks, turkey for the turks, and cyprys for the cypriots.

ps...i felt like this way before you were born, no offence, i couldn't get my head around that we fought for independance just to be a colony for another country. i guess life was a bitch then.

we were short changed somewhere along the line.
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Postby zan » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:53 am

Alexiss wrote:

I honestly have no desire of doing the same with Turkey, if I have it's because I was in defence and I'm sorry.


And the same goes for me on Greece. The reason I posted anything on Greece was because all I could see was the utter rubbish being posted about Turkey time and time again. I posted what I posted in order to make a point that Greece was not a model candidate for EU membership, and neither was the UK for that matter, and for those that were acting like the cat that got the cream to stop gloating. It was meant to be an example and not a slur but as usual and expectedly I suppose people (I will not mention any names) used it to get on the bandwagon against Turkey. I will fight my corner........
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Postby alexISS » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:54 am

pitsilos wrote:and thats slowly changing, you do well to remember.

I'll try to remember that once Cyprus doesn't need Greece Cypriots will think like that:
pitsilos wrote:lambro na tes kapsi tze tes dio tes hores

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pitsilos wrote:what i am saying, greece is for greeks, turkey for the turks, and cyprys for the cypriots.

I'm not going to move to Cyprus if that's what you're afraid of

pitsilos wrote:ps...i felt like this way before you were born, no offence

after the
pitsilos wrote:lambro na tes kapsi tze tes dio tes hores
comment, that would hardly offend me

pitsilos wrote:i couldn't get my head around that we fought for independance just to be a colony for another country. i guess life was a bitch then.

While Greece tried to prevent you.... you're right, it's all Greece's falt, let her burn!


pitsilos wrote:we were short changed somewhere along the line.

But have you changed for the better?
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Postby alexISS » Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:01 am

zan wrote:And the same goes for me on Greece. The reason I posted anything on Greece was because all I could see was the utter rubbish being posted about Turkey time and time again. I posted what I posted in order to make a point that Greece was not a model candidate for EU membership, and neither was the UK for that matter, and for those that were acting like the cat that got the cream to stop gloating. It was meant to be an example and not a slur but as usual and expectedly I suppose people (I will not mention any names) used it to get on the bandwagon against Turkey. I will fight my corner........

I believe those people where Greek Cypriots, not Greeks. If you just wanted to get even, you could just bash Cyprus.
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Postby zan » Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:09 am

alexISS wrote:
zan wrote:And the same goes for me on Greece. The reason I posted anything on Greece was because all I could see was the utter rubbish being posted about Turkey time and time again. I posted what I posted in order to make a point that Greece was not a model candidate for EU membership, and neither was the UK for that matter, and for those that were acting like the cat that got the cream to stop gloating. It was meant to be an example and not a slur but as usual and expectedly I suppose people (I will not mention any names) used it to get on the bandwagon against Turkey. I will fight my corner........

I believe those people where Greek Cypriots, not Greeks. If you just wanted to get even, you could just bash Cyprus.


As I said I was not trying to get even but to make a point that Greece nor the UK were ready for the EU but with American pressure the deal was done. The same goes for the RoC. The only one that was completely wrong was the RoC. Turkey is not too much worse than when Greece joined and Greece has come along at a rate and I believe Turkey can do the same.
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Postby alexISS » Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:12 am

zan wrote:Turkey is not too much worse than when Greece joined

I will have to disagree, leaving economic and other rates aside, Greece was a full democracy before joining the EU, Turkey is not
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Postby pitsilos » Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:19 am

ate re afisme isiho, can't you understand that i am a cypriot? do i have to identify with greece?, where in the rule book is says that?

meltiades is correct the root of all our problems are the bloody motherlands.

I'll try to remember that once Cyprus doesn't need Greece Cypriots will think like that:

really? why you think the coup fail? has the thought ever entered your mind because the majority perhaps wanted to be cypriots?

i couldn't get my head around that we fought for independance just to be a colony of another country. i guess life was a bitch then.

i think you missunderstood or it was lost in the translation. have another go at it.

But have you changed for the better?

no not really, we still have fools running around denying who they are and on top of that they try and force their views on others. so we are still short changed.

on one hand we say as a country we are a member of the EU and on the other we are saying we are greeks, what the fuck, whats it gonna be? a greek one day and a cypriot the next or does it depend which way the wind blows?

yes we have cultural similarities i ain't denying that, but the love i feel for this tiny island and its flag could never be substituded by another country.
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