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[Viewpoint]

Nobody will stop you Viewpoint. As long as the mainland Turks are sleeping while their government feeds that commission with millions everything will be fine. You do know what happens when the Turks wake up some day don't you? Kih, they cut heads.
Guess whose heads they will cut when they wake up VP. GC heads or the rich "british bastard so called brothers in Cyprus" which as they told me when I went to Turkey they "hic sevmez"

[stuballstu]

Piratis wrote

stuballstu, RoC is voluntarily part of EU, and it voluntarily accepts EU laws. So in effect only RoC decides, and it volunatrily allows the EU laws as well. There is nothing contratictory in what I said.

So now will you tell me why you continue to involve EU in this, since you admitted it has nothing to do with it?

Piratis

You claim

Within the borders of RoC only RoC can decide what is legal and what is not

I have now proven it and you have just admitted that this is not true. The ROC does not have final say on wether EU laws are implemented in the ROC they supersede any ROC laws. You insisted that the ROC has full control over the laws of her borders which is not the case as i have quite clearly pointed out.

There is two reasons for this. I'll point them out for you as you are obviously failing to grasp them .

1 EU laws take precedence

2 The ROC government is not in control of the north and therefore have no say whatsoever in the laws passed there.

So in essence you earlier statement

Within the borders of RoC only RoC can decide what is legal and what is not

is completely wrong. I can't make it any clearer now.

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If they do, again I'll ask, Why dont they send GC policeman to GC refugees property and arrest anyone who has bought, owns or rents on this land. Would it be because they have no juristiction within that part of Cyprus?


It is because there is an occupation army of 40.000 troops in it. If I go with a gun in your house and point it at you when you try to enter, would it mean that you do not own your home because I do not allow you to enter?

You didn't answer the question. Is it because a GC policeman can not arrest someone in the North because they have no juristiction? Legally he can't thats why they can't. There is not 40000 troops on guard outside every GC refugees property. You are sounding rather silly now. It is not a question of legal ownership it is a point that you say

Within the borders of RoC only RoC can decide what is legal and what is not

and yet can not implement these laws because as i have stated previously they have no juristiction to do so.

The "commission" is illegal simply because it is not legal. To create a commission like that you have to follow the legal procedures. If you don't, then it is illegal. If every lunatic makes claims that he created "commissions" the government has to bother and say that they are illegal? Of course they are. If they are not let them show us the legal RoC documents that prove the opposite.

What a great arguement It is illegal because it is not legal? Where does it say its not legal. Definition of not legal = illegal. Is it because you say its not legal. Where does it say in the eyes of the law that it is illegal? Point that out to everyone.

What legal procedures do they have to follow? The ECHR will ratify the property commission as a suitable method of local restitution. Does that mean that the ECHR is telling GC's to commit a crime and apply to an illegally formed "commission" to claim property restitution? One of the highest lawcourts in Europe telling people to break the law and commit illegal acts? Makes sense Piratis.

It is not about proving that something is legal, it is about proving something is illegal Piratis can you do that? Time to shit or get off the pan on this one Piratis you are clutching at straws.

[Pyrpolizer]

Lets take things from the beginning:

a)There has not been any final decision by ECHR about that committee.
b)There has not even been a final decision whether it is an acceptable internal remedy for Turkey.

If and when such decisions are taken then the next step for the ECHR is to decide whether it is legal for Turkey to establish such an internal remedy, outside her own borders.

[Viewpoint]

Lets take things from the beginning:

a)There has not been any final decision by ECHR about that committee.
b)There has not even been a final decision whether it is an acceptable internal remedy for Turkey.

If and when such decisions are taken then the next step for the ECHR is to decide whether it is legal for Turkey to establish such an internal remedy, outside her own borders.

Ok with me, the initial signs are encouraging for may Gcs who would prefer to settle their outstanding property issues once and for all. Turkey will make any changes recommended by the ECHR even id means taking the commission to Turkey, you will fly direct via Ercan? or Larnaca-Athens-Ankara?

[pitsilos]

Larnaca- Ankara coming soon, compliments of the EU

[Viewpoint]

Larnaca- Ankara coming soon, compliments of the EU

you wish joking to one side do you think we will ever see such a development? difficult to imagine somehow

[pitsilos]

yes i am certain a solution will be found with in the next couple of years. as soon as turkey starts feeling comfortable with her EU aspirations. and i don't mean this in a bad way, but as a way of a new beggining for the region.

[Pyrpolizer]

The ROC government is not in control of the north and therefore have no say whatsoever in the laws passed there.

So are you telling us that because the RoC has no control of whatever laws that pass in the occupied, then if tomorrow the "trnc" decides the Famagusta port is legal then tomorrow it can start exporting goods to the EU?

It is obvious that you you don’t really understand what the suspension of the EU Aquis at the occupied means. It doesn’t mean the RoC has no say. It means because she cannot apply her say, she is not responsible at the EU for whatever illegalities might occur there.

As far as EU is concerned there are many things in the occupied that have to pass through RoC’s approval to be legal. Do you know some? I do!

[Pyrpolizer]

Ok with me, the initial signs are encouraging for may Gcs who would prefer to settle their outstanding property issues once and for all. Turkey will make any changes recommended by the ECHR even id means taking the commission to Turkey, you will fly direct via Ercan? or Larnaca-Athens-Ankara?

Who asked you?
Are you the ECHR?





But anyway, think before you talk. GCs might be very successful in waking up the sleeping mainland Turks. Hint:Publicity, press conferences

Right there in the heart of Turkey in front of Ayia Sofia, inside Constantinople! Wow, that will be a nice parade.

[Viewpoint]

Ok with me, the initial signs are encouraging for may Gcs who would prefer to settle their outstanding property issues once and for all. Turkey will make any changes recommended by the ECHR even id means taking the commission to Turkey, you will fly direct via Ercan? or Larnaca-Athens-Ankara?

Who asked you?
Are you the ECHR?





But anyway, think before you talk. GCs might be very successful in waking up the sleeping mainland Turks. Hint:Publicity, press conferences

Right there in the heart of Turkey in front of Ayia Sofia, inside Constantinople! Wow, that will be a nice parade.

the world has moved on its now called Istanbul.