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Will GCs apply to the property commission in the North?

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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:51 pm

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To claim back their properties?
What nonsense is this?
There is nothing to claim back. All I can claim is compensation for the loss of use.Period.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:51 pm

stuballstu, RoC is voluntarily part of EU, and it voluntarily accepts EU laws. So in effect only RoC decides, and it volunatrily allows the EU laws as well. There is nothing contratictory in what I said.

So now will you tell me why you continue to involve EU in this, since you admitted it has nothing to do with it?

If they do, again I'll ask, Why dont they send GC policeman to GC refugees property and arrest anyone who has bought, owns or rents on this land. Would it be because they have no juristiction within that part of Cyprus?

It is because there is an occupation army of 40.000 troops in it. If I go with a gun in your house and point it at you when you try to enter, would it mean that you do not own your home because I do not allow you to enter?

Please provide evidence that this has been passed at ROC parliament which speicifically states that this property commission is illegal?


First show to me were the ECHR or anybody else (apart from the Turks) said that this "commission" is legal.

The "commission" is illegal simply because it is not legal. To create a commission like that you have to follow the legal procedures. If you don't, then it is illegal. If every lunatic makes claims that he created "commissions" the government has to bother and say that they are illegal? Of course they are. If they are not let them show us the legal RoC documents that prove the opposite.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:54 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:To claim back their properties?
What nonsense is this?
There is nothing to claim back. All I can claim is compensation for the loss of use.Period.


Well time to wake up Gcs are selling their property for the best price they can get from the commission. Arent you aware of this?
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Postby Piratis » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:56 pm

Sales in Cyprus and transfer of deeds is something only RoC can do.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:58 pm

Piratis wrote:Sales in Cyprus and transfer of deeds is something only RoC can do.


Bingo...thats the answer I was fishing for, so the TC land I sold to another TC last month is still mine???? arent I lucky chap I go tell him you said so :wink:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:58 pm

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3 out of 180,000= 0.000001
Is this what you mean by "people"?
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Postby skipper » Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:01 pm

Piratis wrote:Sales in Cyprus and transfer of deeds is something only RoC can do.


The ability to transfer ownership of your property is a human right too, if a GC wanted (although highly unlikely) they could take the RoC to the ECHR and win.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:02 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:@ Viewpoint

3 out of 180,000= 0.000001
Is this what you mean by "people"?


man once we set the precedent the rest will follow unless blocked and frightened off by your administration.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:12 pm

Nobody will stop you Viewpoint. As long as the mainland Turks are sleeping while their government feeds that commission with millions everything will be fine. You do know what happens when the Turks wake up some day don't you? Kih, they cut heads.
Guess whose heads they will cut when they wake up VP. GC heads or the rich "british bastard so called brothers in Cyprus" which as they told me when I went to Turkey they "hic sevmez"
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Postby skipper » Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:21 pm

First show to me were the ECHR or anybody else (apart from the Turks) said that this "commission" is legal.

The "commission" is illegal simply because it is not legal. To create a commission like that you have to follow the legal procedures. If you don't, then it is illegal. If every lunatic makes claims that he created "commissions" the government has to bother and say that they are illegal? Of course they are. If they are not let them show us the legal RoC documents that prove the opposite.


Well if it was illegal, the court would never "welcome" it, here's a snip from the summary:

"The Court welcomed the steps taken by the Turkish Government in an effort to provide redress for the violations of the applicant’s Convention rights as well as in respect of all similar applications pending before it. The Court noted that the new compensation and restitution mechanism, in principle, had taken care of the requirements of the decision of the Court on admissibility of 14 March 2005 and its judgment of 22 December 2005."

Like I've said before, legally the TRNC commission is acting on the behalf of Turkey. If the RoC regards the establishment of a commission manned by TC's to deal compensation as illegal then that its their problem since as I repeat, its not a party to the case. The ECHR deals with indivuals cases against states, not states against states and it certainly does n't pass judgements on political problems, thats the job of the ECJ.
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