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Any links to the alledged "troubles" the GCs caused you? Any links to the independent report sent to the EU?

I have potatos in my cellar for 5 weeks and are in excelent condition. The ship needs minimum one week to go to the UK.
So you might as well explain us how your potatoes went bad in just 5 days-if that delay can in fact be attributed to the devilish GCs?

Seeing that the incident was between the north and the south I dont think you will find any independent reports, are your potatoes in the direct sunlight? or left out over night? they are probably in a cool area in the dark. For full details contact the EU office in the north or Erdil Nami head of the TCCC.

It was also reported on NTV news this afternoon with a live link to Erdil Nami who explained the antics of the south with reagrds to trade over the green line.

[Pyrpolizer]

Our producers are clever enough to cover their potatoes to protect them from direct sunlight.
No sensible producer would just let his products for 5 days until they rot, unless of course everything was staged.
Hey here's an advice to you. Try the same another 4-5 times.

[Pyrpolizer]

VP,
now scratching my memory there was a case a long time ago for some products disinfected by DDT which is cancerous and forbidden in the EU, even stopped be used by the 50s, is this the case you are referring to? If I also reacall right these potatos were not for export but for consumption by the GCs....

Devilish GCs they now discovered DDT is strictly forbidden in the EU. Wonder how the EU officials who check the products there never knew about it, and what kind of job they are actually doing over there.

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Nami confirms they were EU experts who OKed the produce were specially flown in, why cant you accept that your side will do everything within their power to delay, stop or cause problems for TC goods being exported or sold south. You object to direct flights and football matches this is something that effects our economy positively can u not see why your administration would want to do everything within their power to block us.

If the north have valid claims and evidence then they will lodge it with the EU and they will follow it up and document it, why all the denial? you side is not all white as they wish to make out.

Somethings never change...like they say put a EU saddle on a donkey its still a donkey.

[Pyrpolizer]

Viewpoint,

You should actually address your questions to yourself and ask whether it is your side that is actually trying to cause you problems and then load the responsibility on the shoulders of the devilish GCs.

So far you are just asking me to become a beleiver, as if your side is some sort of "relegion". You gave me absolutely no proof so far, so I imply you you are a victim of your own propaganda.

Nevertheless here's some undeniable proof for you:

1) Is it true or is it not, that Talat called your producers after Papadopoulos gave the OK to use their own trucks, and told them "NO I AM FORBITTING YOU TO EXPORT THEM THROUGH LIMASSOL BECAUSE YOU WILL BE HARMING OUR CASE"
2) Is it true or is it not that when the TCs complained they could not sell their wheat, Papadopoulos offered to buy ALL the wheat produced by the TCs? Is it true or is it not that AFTER your administration saw this development they called the TC producers the very LAST MINUTE and told them "NO YOU ARE FORBITTEN TO SELL IT TO THEM AS THIS WILL BE HARMING OUR CASE.WE WILL BUY ALL YOUR WHEAT".

Answer these undeniable facts VP.

[DT.]

Nami confirms they were EU experts who OKed the produce were specially flown in, why cant you accept that your side will do everything within their power to delay, stop or cause problems for TC goods being exported or sold south. You object to direct flights and football matches this is something that effects our economy positively can u not see why your administration would want to do everything within their power to block us.

If the north have valid claims and evidence then they will lodge it with the EU and they will follow it up and document it, why all the denial? you side is not all white as they wish to make out.

Somethings never change...like they say put a EU saddle on a donkey its still a donkey.

YOu don't even have the bloody saddle VP so I'd stop repeating this same one-liner if i were you.

[Pyrpolizer]

Btw I am not interested for your hearsay stories with whats his name, Nami? Give me evidence.

[skipper]

It came to me as a surprise hearing from you that Turkish products are zero % rated on imports-exports with the EU. The usual procedure for all canditate member states is to get gradual reduction and then get zero rates on accession.
Fact is you are right, Turkey is in fact the FIRST and ONLY country to enter an almost full customs union with EU without being full member.

No wonder how it got so much foreign investment. Clever Turkey, I must say.

The EU-Turkey Customs Union came into effect in 1995 four years before Turkey even had candidate status (1999). The "freezing" of eight chapters is a bit of a smoke screen as due to the Customs Union, Turkey is infact advanced in complaince with the majority of these chapters so if/when they get opened it's not like they are starting from scratch.

[Viewpoint]

Viewpoint,

You should actually address your questions to yourself and ask whether it is your side that is actually trying to cause you problems and then load the responsibility on the shoulders of the devilish GCs.

So far you are just asking me to become a beleiver, as if your side is some sort of "relegion". You gave me absolutely no proof so far, so I imply you you are a victim of your own propaganda.

Nevertheless here's some undeniable proof for you:

1) Is it true or is it not, that Talat called your producers after Papadopoulos gave the OK to use their own trucks, and told them "NO I AM FORBITTING YOU TO EXPORT THEM THROUGH LIMASSOL BECAUSE YOU WILL BE HARMING OUR CASE"
2) Is it true or is it not that when the TCs complained they could not sell their wheat, Papadopoulos offered to buy ALL the wheat produced by the TCs? Is it true or is it not that AFTER your administration saw this development they called the TC producers the very LAST MINUTE and told them "NO YOU ARE FORBITTEN TO SELL IT TO THEM AS THIS WILL BE HARMING OUR CASE.WE WILL BUY ALL YOUR WHEAT".

Answer these undeniable facts VP.

Links? independent sources? or do you have direct contact with both leaders?

Admit it, your side want to economically suffocate the north into submission as that is the only real strength you have. You are scared shitless of anything remotely close to recognition or allowing to enjoy what u have had for 32 years, well its time to face up to reality we deserve direct flights just like u do, you deserve to go home like we do, etc, why not level things out? what are you afraid of?

[Viewpoint]

Nami confirms they were EU experts who OKed the produce were specially flown in, why cant you accept that your side will do everything within their power to delay, stop or cause problems for TC goods being exported or sold south. You object to direct flights and football matches this is something that effects our economy positively can u not see why your administration would want to do everything within their power to block us.

If the north have valid claims and evidence then they will lodge it with the EU and they will follow it up and document it, why all the denial? you side is not all white as they wish to make out.

Somethings never change...like they say put a EU saddle on a donkey its still a donkey.

YOu don't even have the bloody saddle VP so I'd stop repeating this same one-liner if i were you.

Never claimed that we did, but you do